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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Not sure if this question has been raised before in the past, but here goes........!
Despite the best laid plans of mice and men (and women)......!
How many of us skilled practitioners out there have in fact conducted themselves to the high standards expected of our professions and still been subjected to enforcement action (through no fault of their own) by the HSE or SEPA/EA.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Let me rephrase the question to avoid confusion.......!
How many of us skilled practitioners out there have in fact conducted themselves to the high standards expected of our professions and (through no fault of their own) their employers have still been subjected to enforcement action by the HSE or SEPA/EA
That makes more sense to what I am wondering, sorry (sheepishly!)
Regards
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Posted By IT
You may NOT get any responses ,but a valid question.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
IT - This may well be the case, however I have to say and agree with you, it is a valid question - and I would not question the competency or integrity of the practitioner whose employer receives enforcement action, however I would question the lack of support from the owner/board.
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Posted By IT
Well put Alexander ,very well put.
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Posted By IT
Sorry for the double post,would like to start this off for you.
I had a background in Enforcement (Safety) back in Australia and went to a private Company ,where I covered all states ,I had several Enforcement noticies (NO Prohibition Notices) issued to me by one of my former colleges (he used to report to me) for breeches ,of course all notices were promptly dealt with and NO PROCECUTION took place.
I did however ensure the Directors and Senior Managers were aware of the consequences and repeat breeches were never issued.
Is this what your looking for.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
IT - I have experienced receipt of HSE improvement & prohibition notices (never a prosecution).
It seems to be the norm, that some employers will often ignore the competent persons recommendations (my previous Line Manager thought he knew better than me and he didn't even have any, nor did he wish to take H&S qualifications).
I do know of a former employer who was also prosecuted on several occasions at least 6 years after my departure.
Does this make me an incompetent practitioner?
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Posted By IT
No Alexander ,
why would you be seen as incompetent.
It actually shows that the commitment of the business was only when you were involved IMO ,so how would this make Not a competent practioner
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
IT - that was only a general statement, I don't literally see myself as an incompetent practitioner (far from it). I also have on good authority from individuals who are employed with enforcing authorities, whom I deal with and have done for many years, find me a more than a competent and committed practitioner (not trying to blow my own trumpet here).
These same said individuals, are also, believe it or not, just as equally frustrated as I was, that some employers still continue to ignore their competent person(s).
If employers actually focused on H&S matters just as importantly as production, then it will make their job of enforcement that much easier.
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