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Posted By Chris Pope I have assumed in the past that any experienced worker wearing suitable hi vis clothing can step out into the oncoming traffic and stop it using hand signals to enable a large artic lorry to reverse accross the traffic lane where there is difficult access.
Although I have confidently done this myself in the past I've noted that some drivers have scant regard for soft obstacles (unless they hold a lolliipop or are labelled POLICE) to their progress and are not averse to frightening them out of the way.
I am in the process of giving this assumption a serious rework
Question 1. - what qualifications are needed to do this (Road traffic Act, New Roads & Streetworks Act)?
Question 2 - What equipment is necessary as a minimum (eg stop/go boards
Question 3 what road signage should be placed in advance (eg Caution heavy plant turning)
I am looking for either case history / prosecution or chapter and verse...
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Posted By RP You should refer to the Approved Code of Practice, Safety at Streetworks and Roadworks. Available for free download from www.streetworks.fsnet.co.uk. In it you will see that it is forbiden to control traffic using hand signals. The only person able to do this is an uniformed police officer. On page 2 at the top it says you 'must' carry out an on-site risk assessment. Also referring to Chapter 8 of the Traffic Signs Manual, any person working on the highway, in respect of signing, lighting and guarding, must be trained. Qualifications exist if you need them.
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Posted By Stephen D. Clarke I think in law only the police, traffic wardens and school crossing patrols are allowed to stop traffic.
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Posted By RP Traffic Wardens are only permitted to control traffic if accompanied by a uniformed police officer, and then only in an emergency and requested.
School Crossing Attendants are controlling traffic by using an authorised sign in which they may stop traffic legally for a period of up to 2 minutes, or longer for safety reasons.
The only way you may control traffic otherwise is to use signs, temporary traffic lights as prescribed in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002....or by lying very still in the road...
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Posted By Richard Altoft To stop traffic Police must be in uniform so you have a defence if you ignore plain clothes officers As always though you must drive with due care and attention so if the road is blocked by a large artic it would be reasonable to respond to hand signals to stop. Laws of physics are not negotiable -- big beats small every time R
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Posted By garyOrange
The Police Reform Act gave specific powers to both Traffic wardens(who had them anyway) and to Police Community Support officers to control traffic without the presence of a Police Constable in unfiform. It is a summary offence to ignore the directions of both normally punishable by a fine.
It i also a specific offence to ignore tempoary ATS lights where installed during rooadworks etc but not a specicif offence to ignore a workers hand signals where they need a lorry to back out of a space etc onto a highway.
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Posted By Salus This is what the Clarksons of the world love. Chris, is this one of those situations where you come across a lorry driver trying to reverse on his own. If you think you can help them reverse for 10 mins then do so if you think it is beyond you then don't do it. The hazard is there but the risk is unlikely, especially to a person. Members of the public are mostly helpful people,so an employer would have to say to their driver "if any member of the public tries to help you tell them no thank you I will do it on my own and the chances of an accident happening will rise by a 100%", Legally employers can foresee this situation happening and should put measures into place to control it, but job descriptions would have to be changed, responsibilities altered. If we ALL had to be competant, erect signage, have the correct qualifications and wear the appropriate PPE before helping him there nothing would ever get done.If you go down your route you would need to monitor and inspect, a procedure would need to be inplace ,where are the signs kept, who is responsible for maintaining them, erecting them setting them up at the correct distances.All the things you suggest are OK but impracticle. All employees / employers have a duty, just for a minute imagine the cost implications nationwide. even if they were inplace what happens if the responsible person is sick on holiday , more training required fo another. lorry drivers saying "I'm not waiting for all that to be set up" The are lots more scenarios but anyway summing up, the costs outway the benefits.
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Posted By Paul Bellis Wasnt there a prosecution highlighted in SHP a few months back -where an unqualified person was acting as a banksman helping traffic to reverse and a fatality occured. HSE prosecuted because the banksman did not hold an appropriate qualification for directing traffic (even though he was experienced)there was not a suitable and sufficient risk assesmnent done which would have highlighted this. I will have to check my back issues -unless someone else can remember.
Paul
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Posted By RP Derby County Council - Bardons Contractors and City Plant hire.
The case was brought because there was no safe system of work on a site were a young girl was killed when the excavator bucket on a 360 machine took the front of the double decker she was a passenger in.
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Posted By Paul Bellis I was thinking of this one -in January 2005 issue
Worker managing site traffic hadn’t been trained
An employee of construction giant Balfour Beatty Civil Engineering was struck and killed by a lorry as he was directing traffic at a building site, Wolverhampton Crown Court heard on 18 November.
The company pleaded guilty to breaching s2(1) of HSWA 1974 in failing to ensure the safety of an employee. It was fined £60,000 plus partial HSE costs of £45,000.
Stephen Hayward had been employed as a ground worker during construction of the A5 Nesscliffe Bypass in Shropshire on 4 October 2002. As part of the project an anti-skid surface was being laid by sub-contractors on the approach to a new roundabout on the road.
Two of Balfour Beatty’s employees, including Mr Hayward, were told to manage traffic during the work by operating ‘stop-go’ boards, but they had not been trained to do so. While he was doing this, Mr Hayward was struck by a lorry and killed.
According to Katharine Walker, the HSE inspector who investigated the case, subsequent enquiries showed that there was a lack of training of those controlling the traffic flow; no specific risk assessment had been undertaken for the job; and the signs and cones did not conform with proper Highways Agency traffic management standards. Not all Mr Hayward’s supervisors had been trained and no traffic safety and control officer had been appointed to manage and inspect the roadworks.
The company said in mitigation that it had taken steps to remedy deficiencies in training its staff since the incident took place. It had not deliberately cut corners to save money.
Inspector Walker commented: "This incident is one that could have easily been avoided. It is a sobering reminder of the dangers that exist during roadworks. Employers must carry out risk assessments and take proper precautions to protect their workers from oncoming vehicles when involved in temporary traffic works."
Paul
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Posted By Chris Pope Many thanks pals - sensible answers. My question was posed to deal with a risk area that is routinely unmanaged by construction staff.
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