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Posted By JWG
A member of staff trapped her finger in the door and it was reported that she fainted as a result.
Is a faint the same as loss of consciousness? To me they are the same.
Can someone please clarify. Thanks..
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Posted By steven bentham
Not reportable
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Posted By gham
is it not a loss of consciousness due to the lack of oxygen (i.e. asphyxia)
thus non reportable
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Posted By Bill Elliott
But if she is subsequently unable to perform normal duties for over 3 days, it may be reportable.
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Posted By JWG
Sorry, I sould of said reportable as a major injury. If not reported as a major injury then I will report it if the person is incapacitated for more than 3 days.
If the general consensus is that a faint is the same as loss of consciousness then I'll report at as a major, as per the requirements under the regs.
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Posted By gham
Schedule 1,8 States
8. Loss of consciousness caused by asphyxia or by exposure to a harmful substance or biological agent.
The ip in this case may have lossed conciousness however it does not appear to be under these circumstances as such i would not report it unless there is an resulting absense from work for more than 3 days
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Posted By JWG
The extract below has been taken from HSE 31 - RIDDOR Explained (www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/hse31.pdf).
"? any other injury: leading to hypothermia, heat-induced illness or unconsciousness; or requiring resuscitation; or requiring admittance to hospital for more than 24 hours."
Iv'e just looked on the Oxford English Dictionary website for 'faint': noun - a sudden loss of consciousness.
I will be reporting this incident as a major unless anyone has any further information to contradict. Your comments are welcome
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Posted By gham
was she over heated when she fainted?
or am i not reading you quote correctly
The fainting it this case was not induced by asphyxiation nor was it heat induced, unless the doorway was in a hot confined space then personally i would not report it
Sorry for going on
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Posted By Sally
This might sound obvious but what about phoning the RIDDOR reporting line and asking them? The definitive answer to this would be interesting.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Have you looked at the meaning of unconsciousness?
Putting fainting in the same light as unconciousness is like chalk & cheese
In light of your dilemma, not reportable unless more than 3 days absence
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Posted By JWG
Taking into consideration all comments above I've decided not to report this incident as a major injury.
Many thanks to you all
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