Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Admin  
#1 Posted : 15 March 2006 10:58:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Bob Shillabeer
I have been asked to investigate the need for evac chairs in a multi storey building. I am currently checking if the lifts comply with BS5588 regards to fire evacuation, etc. I have looked at approved document B which points to AD M which states the use of lifts is permissible if they comply to BS5588 and so seem to be going round in a ever bigger circles. Can anyone give me info on where the use of evac chairs is covered please.

Fraternal greetings to all.
Admin  
#2 Posted : 15 March 2006 11:37:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Joel Frorath
Bob

This part of BS 5588 is no longer current, you need to refer to The Building Regulations.

Hope this is of some use to you
Admin  
#3 Posted : 15 March 2006 11:42:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Thanks, that's saved a wasted effort or two. I've got a copy of the building regs and the part B AD Again thanks.
Admin  
#4 Posted : 15 March 2006 14:01:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Derek Housley
BS 5588 part 8 The Code of Practice for means of of escape for disabled persons is still valid.

Under the workplace regs 1997 as amended, there is a requirement for a fire risk assessment to be carried out. In doing this you need to look at the m of e for disabled. Provision of refuges which are only temporary holding areas.

In certain cases is is acceptable ( see 5588 part 5 - lobby protection, secondary power supply etc. )to use the lift.

The buildings management is responsible to ensure that provisions are in place to evacuate disabled persons, from the temporary holding area ( the refuge), hence the need for evacuation type chairs and training. A personal emergency evacuation plan ( PEEP), will look at the issues.

Please remember its not just non ambulant, consider, deaf, blind, pregnant etc. under the PEEP.

Consider that where an evacuation lift is in place, the fire may block access to it, consider provision of an evacuation type chair on the alternative m of e.

Remember to record your significant findings in your fire risk assessment.

Hope that helps



Admin  
#5 Posted : 16 March 2006 10:01:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Thanks Derek, That is great stuff. I am now obtaining a copy of the BS as it seems to hold all the info I need. The issue is about whether we buy evac chairs when we at this monment in time have no disabled staff but may get the occasional visitor in that category and with the new RRO coming in in October we need to get ready and ensure we cover all bases. Ta Much.
Admin  
#6 Posted : 19 March 2006 13:05:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Andy JC
I'd suggest having a look at BS8300 as well since it covers much of the other points that are needed. Additionally, if it for your own staff, they should be provided with a Personnal Emergency Egress Plan (PEEP). You will also find useful information at www.cae.org.uk which is the lead body for access.

A very useful set of documents can be found at http://www.herian.org/resources/accessguides.html.

The Disablity Rights Comission has a health & safety guide at http://www.drc-gb.org/li....asp?id=436§ionid=5. This will be replaced later this year with a set of three guides joinetly produced by the DRC and the HSE following a recent study run by both of them. These when they are produced should be the authoritive document you will need to be aware of.

I also have a copy of an excelent guide which will shortly be put on the CAE website as one of a set of free to use documents which I'm happy to email you a copy of it on request.

Have fun,

Andy
Admin  
#7 Posted : 20 March 2006 12:25:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Thanks Andy a copy would prove useful reading. Regards Bob. My e-mail address is bob.shillabeer@rssb.co.uk
Admin  
#8 Posted : 20 March 2006 12:31:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By Gary IMD(UK)
On a light-hearted note... Has anyone seen the episode of 'The Office' when they have a fire evacuation?? How many times has this happened in the workplace? Just like the Fire Extinguisher door stops!!... 'Oh, we only do it when we're in the office', they shout!!

Take care all!
Admin  
#9 Posted : 17 April 2006 11:25:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest
Admin

Posted By David A Cooper
Bob, you need to know that BS5588 for lifts (part 5) is about to be withdrawn. A new standard, EN81-72, has been in force for a couple of years. David
Users browsing this topic
Guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.