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#1 Posted : 19 March 2006 09:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Check this out (if you can be bothered): http://driving.timesonli...0,,27909-2084921,00.html Paul
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#2 Posted : 19 March 2006 09:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hmm ..and we all know that Jez has a satnav so he doesn't accidently get lost, he probably has a road angel so he doesn't accidently get zapped by a speed camera as well. Maybe I should get me swimming cozzy on and accidently distract him whilst he is driving his fast car, so he ends up in a ditch. Stand by with the film crew Paul and we can show that his accident could be prevented! LOL Linda
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#3 Posted : 19 March 2006 13:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Trouble is, he has a point. I just love his articles. Written so well and so quickly ! A cow with electric windows ? Must have. Mind you, he doesn't think much of my Rover 75.
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#4 Posted : 20 March 2006 11:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Linda, Not a word of a lie, but an incident similar to the one you initially described actually happened to my old man! His brand new estate car, was trashed because the driver behind him was distracted by canoeists changing and drove into his rear. It wasn't you perchance?
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#5 Posted : 20 March 2006 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Haynes Interesting Don't see anyone violently disagreeing with JC - probably means we don't disagree with his words about us Safety people
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#6 Posted : 20 March 2006 12:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser Not so much that we don't disagree, but that we aren't bothered to respond to someone so close-minded and unaffected by rational debate.
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#7 Posted : 20 March 2006 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze The thing is Alan, that H&S is such a broad church that there might actually be someone out there that matches the description that JC gives. Someone who has entered the field from say a TU perspective because they felt that their employer was taking liberties will have a totally different perspective from someone with a management background who has taken on the OHS portfolio. I personally do not see the stereotypes he describes in myself (feel free to disagree), but I've seen them in the wider workplace, though not necessarily in the TU Safety Reps I've dealt with. Sean's point is also fairly valid, JC's published attitudes have gone so far down the route of self parody, that most folks just roll their eyes and say "he's off again!"
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#8 Posted : 20 March 2006 12:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh Come on people. Lighten up. Clarkson is an ENTERTAINER (possibly a Journalist). He does not have to state facts, prove anything or even tell the truth. The fact is, there is a grain of truth in his rantings...........
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#9 Posted : 20 March 2006 22:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day Has anyone read 'The world according to Clarkson'?? There is a chapter on safety/the nanny state, he talks about when he was filming and the BBC safety department aparently didn't want him flying in a F15 as the pilots were not on the list of approved BBC pilots, as he said, at Top Gun they don't teach the pilots how to crash spectacularly !! As safety professionals, how many times have we posted and complained on this forum about the bonkers conkers stories ?? Perhaps we should thank Mr Clarkson for raising this in a laymans forum ??
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#10 Posted : 21 March 2006 10:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Devlin With my tongue firmly in my cheek, so Johnathan its all the TU reps fault is it?? I dont seem to remember the TU's having conkers and such like banned. I tend to think that JC has a general pop at the beauraucracy in local and national government and even the EU in the most part. I'm sure most of us will agree there are a lot of jobsworths who come up with some strange and wonderful reasons for banning/curtailing a lot of sports and pastimes we used to hold dear in the UK. I dread to think what would happen to our very own Highland Games in sunny Scotland if the H&S "nutters" got their hands on it. May I volunteer my services for the calender where I will don little more than my kilt whilst posing with my caber preferably during one of the summer months for heat and shrinkage reasons xxx Paul
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#11 Posted : 21 March 2006 11:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Paul, tongue in cheek comment noted. You'd have to have a particularly Clarksonesque perspective on life to interpret my comments thus, but it was possible. Well spotted. During the height of the "Conkers Bonkers" episode, I worked out that it would take four whole conkers (count ‘em being swallowed!) to exceed the set LC 50 in a Year 1 pupil (based on the LC 50 in lab rats). However, as I’ve yet to come across a Year 1 pupil who was capable (let alone willing) of swallowing four conkers, the whole exercise was somewhat academic. It is therefore only appropriate that I should cover September or October in the calendar. I was thinking along the lines of a string of conkers on a lace as a necklace with two large horse chestnut leaves in hand (like ostrich feathers) to cover my modesty and wearing safety goggles and gloves.
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#12 Posted : 22 March 2006 08:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Skipsey As I brought up the matter of wearing of IOSH badges I suppose I better pick up sharps as my topic, ouch. Unfortunatly I only have one, not looked at it for a while, but on close examination it's not very big, I think the pointy end may also have been damaged in the post box (although it was protected at the time) Any donations of badges for a good cause greatfully accepted. Dave S
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#13 Posted : 22 March 2006 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Haynes "Unfortunatly I only have one, not looked at it for a while, but on close examination it's not very big, I think the pointy end may also have been damaged in the post box (although it was protected at the time)" What is he talking about?
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#14 Posted : 22 March 2006 10:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Skipsey alan I am extremely proud of my IOSH pin to which I was refering. I have been considering it's usefulness for some time and Linda's idea beats anything I came up with. sorry Gary, I feel this thread has some way to run yet Just to help the thread along, has anyone else came up with novelal ternative uses for this essential health and safety tool?
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#15 Posted : 22 March 2006 11:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins Dave as I can't imagine any circumstances under which I would wear said pin, I WOULD send it to you, but I'm afraid it might cause a hazard in the post due to the pointy end. Mods - help Gary out here - is there no way to stop the "notification by e-mail"? Perhaps there should be...
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#16 Posted : 22 March 2006 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Skipsey Philby Aha, another use for IOSH badges (drawing pins to hang said calanders up with). Postings on this thread seem to indicate that we have a number of H&S couples out there, are we to see next generation harry potter type H&S super bods with extraordinery powers such as getting managers to do what they have been advised, or instilling a positive safety culture by telepothy, the mere prsence on a site will prevent accidents occuring. Off to take a pill now. PS How did you get together, throw your IOSH pins on the table at a seminar? MMM there's a thought?
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#17 Posted : 23 March 2006 19:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher With 2404 views, 75 postings, a lot of laughs, a few near the knuckle comments and a complaint about recieving too many notification of postings the Moderators have decided that the tea break is over and we need to get back to work. Therefore, the Thread has now been locked. We hope you enjoyed the run, it allowed us to demonstrate that we can work and play. Moderators
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