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#1 Posted : 31 March 2006 13:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By cfraser Why do pospective employers ask you to do presentations as part of the interview process? Do they understand that most people have full-time jobs and want some time with families. Then, when you are not successful they just send you a letter, clearly they cant be bothered to call and give you feedback, aaaaarrrrggggghhh, rant over, Colin
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#2 Posted : 31 March 2006 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Taylor14 I asked for a presentations because I wanted to see if the prospective candidates had presentation skills which would give them the opportunity to sell themselves and show core subject knowledge. All candidates were informed of the panels decision as soon as all were interviewed. In regards family etc, surely the point is that you get the job to give your family a better standard of living. I cant see the problem other than you dealing with rejection.
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#3 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Agree strongly woth previous reply. Constructing and presenting are a very important part of the job. As is soldering a joint for a plumber. Skills that need to be demonstrated before a decision is taken by prospective employer. About a year back a now regular poster to this show asked if anyone had a presentation suitable for use during an interview for a senior post. We advised him that at that level he should be able to do it himself off the top of his head. It would then be HIS presentation and the time spent in reserching/thinking/designing the presentation would stand him in good stead during the interview. Having to do it over the weekend had the added bonus (bonuses, bonusi ?)of not being able to participate in the saturday shopping nor take the kids to the park/football match. He got the job.
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#4 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Merv, Bonuses, 'bonusi' is the keeping of minaiture trees ;-) John
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#5 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman I thought that was "banzai" or is that reserved for the vicious man-eating tree I hear they keep in a shed at Kew ?
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#6 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Vicious man eating trees are OK provided you're not a vicious man, John
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#7 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Agree about the need for presentations, if you have to do this in your work etc. I also agree with cfraser about some employers not getting back to you and agencies are the worst for that. It is even more annoying when you are invited to an interview, take a day off of work give a presentation that's taken an age to prepare etc. and the job is spoken for (without you knowing), but they have to go through the process of advertising externally. It could even be for a lower paid one, but worthwhile at the same time. It's Friday 'Get of your chest' day.
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#8 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham i was asked to deliver a typical health and safety awareness presentation in 45 mins (yeah right!), "basically what we are looking for is what you would deliver to new starts in your company going over your policies, safety rules and systems of work, and proceedures" turns out what the really wanted was a 45min brain washing session to tell the new starts how great a company they are and how greatful they should be for working there. Presentations are okay as long as the people they are being diliver to make it clear what they want
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#9 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By cfraser peter, i agree, that if thats part of the selection criteria then fair enough, what i dont agree with is no feedback, as for rejection, I have not just left school and have had to deal with many rejections and probably many more to come, as for shopping with the family, well, try seven 12 hour night shifts and then deliver a presentation and interview, again it is Friday, aaaahhhhhhhh
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#10 Posted : 31 March 2006 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Communication, communication and communication the best skills a HS&E person can have if you are crap at it then you will not fit be successful, same a psychometric testing really muist have the 'personal' skills. Like people have said before you can have all the degrees and NEBOSH etc and CMIOSH but you may not be able to hold the interets of a dead frog so are the prospective employesr wasting their time then? As far as your personal circumstance go Colin is that the prospective employers responsibility, would suggest that if you could do this after 7 days nights etc then you can obviouusly work under duress and extreme pressure so you may have been the 'man' so to speak, which is another requirement to be in this job.
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#11 Posted : 31 March 2006 20:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Saracen11 Hi cfraser, I’ve discussed this topic with my Brother-in-Law. He is an Occupational Physiologist in the HR department of a large retail company, and somewhat of an expert when it comes to the Psychology side of recruitment and selection. This type of request from Employers in known as the “Tom Jones Syndrome”. I asked him if it was common, he said it’s not unusual. Regards.
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#12 Posted : 31 March 2006 23:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By cfraser cheers, had some grape juice now, cfraser
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#13 Posted : 01 April 2006 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By erina talk about why,why,why.....I went for an interview where part of the test was about being the last to stay onboard a falling hot air balloon.....out popped Camilla, Charles, Tony the works and I was amazed at the show that played off in front of me... needless to say I was speechless....what did that have to do with competency, and qualifications that was sudied and trained for ....well..got turned down 'cause they felt I did not come across strong enough...duh! I am what I am a serious worker that's well trained and experienced in my job...the play part is for after hours then we play hard... What a load of crap...I agree with presentations...specially if you need to give health and safety training etc..don't want people falling asleep in that would we?
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