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Posted By Phil
Have any of the members actually noticed a change since the new regs?
i.e rescue plans in method statements
(even though we should have been doing this all along anyway)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Yes, most, (but not all) take account of the changes. (Method statements from contractors that is) Some incorrectly refer to the 2006 regs (not sure where that one comes from) and some, (only a small minority) are not even aware they changed. Lets be fair though it was only ever so slightly. Hands up all those that never had a 2 metre rule anyway! Yes I thought so.
Charles
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Posted By Merv Newman
Um. wasn't that the "18 hands" rule so as to avoid requiring horse-riding police from having to wear safety harnesses ? Serious H&S Minds are required to officially boggle at this point.
Merv. (just back from the most BORING meeting in my life. Politicians, Civil(?) servants, economists. Walked out after 1/2 hour late start (no explanation), 1/2 hour scene setting (four (!) times said "and for my last point"), and next speaker saying "we should not be surprised that India and China are taking such advantage of current globalisation as they were so much exploited in the past (ie by the british))
That was when I made my excuses and left.
Fortunately I was sitting in the middle of a row and was able to disturb lots and lots of people as I went.
Now that's a RANT !
Sorry for wandering off-thread. Just shows that a consultant's lot is not always a happy one. God. The stuff which with you have to up put.
Steak, oven chips (home made), mushrooms, tomatoes, onions. And it's not my turn to cook. Beaujolais ? Yeah.
Merv (soulagé et maintenant, décontracté)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
The WaH Regs were officially touted as the bringing together of current good practices and formalising some mildly new approaches.
Unfortunately, because of the way that the regs were written, there are as many anomalies that require the unquestioning acceptance of bizarre acts of faith as before! The police horse statement is a classic as this is simply a case of inefficient Regulation Drafters and Legislators trying to shut the stable door after the horse has climbed over it 'cos they let it! Note that the guidance doesn't include, for instance, ordinary mortals riding horses at work - the implication of the Guidance [sic] statement is that the Police are exempted [they aren't].
Simply be aware that the actual Regulation has absolutely no exemption nor derogation for that particular type of work at height unless it's been issued in Council and not publicised; if it has been publicised, could someone please show me the official exemption or derogation and I shall hold my hands up and admit insufficient knowledge on this topic.
The moral of this sorry state of affairs - I'm reminded of the Factories Act S14 & HMFI Frost case. The legislation simply doesn't say what people thought it is supposed to because it was written with the deliberate intention of having the widest possible catchment.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Phil
Have any members actually arranged or looked into providing your own rescue system for remote site locations, or where special circumstances are involved etc (not relying on emergency services as HSE recommend)?
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