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Posted By JEFFREY SMITH
Help! I know that the TUC was trying to push for an upper heating limiet (around 30 degrees, I think) but do not know if this has ever been pushed through into general use.
Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Jeffrey
There are no temperature limits in Regulations these days, although there are lower temperature limits quoted in the ACoP to the Workplace Regs.
Paul
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Posted By JEFFREY SMITH
Thanks for that, I will pass the information on.
Regards
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
I've not heared anything more on this Jeffrey since it was raised.
P'raps a trip to the TUC website would help you.
I'm also not sure what it would achieve other than making it illegal to work in hot weather or in equatorial regions.
I think a better way to go would be to have a requirement into the Building Regs for new builds to be fully climate controlled (i.e cooling as well as heating).
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Posted By Paul Devlin
Hi there has be no change and the TUC are trying to have an upper limit of 25 degrees as per giudance from the WHO (the health ones not the band) introduced.
As replier said throws up all kinds of complications about regulating temp for outdoor workers, I think it would have the proviso that the upper limit was for internal/office based work.
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Posted By Descarte
To me upper limits dont mean a thing, it does not take into consideration PPE, personal health issues, Work load, duration, air movement, frequency of breaks etc etc
I think a common sense approch should be used
If you are an office working doing no heavy or mild manual work in a room with good air circulation then you can work upto 30 Deg C
If you are indoors and doing mild to heavy lifting in normal attire then this should probably be down to 25 Deg C depending again on space contraints duration and air movement
To the extreme
If you are in full overalls in a confined space doing heavy/manual work ie. replace a failed fan within a heat exchanger where it has been allowed to cool but is still over 30 deg C then you should work for 30 mins, rest 30 mins in rotation with a supply of fresh still "bottled" drinking water (bottled is quite important as it has a higher lvl of salt which also needs to be replenished lost in sweat) with a cool place to rest and recover
And everything in between
The problem is, employers use not having an upper limit as an excuse to tell people to get back to work when it is stiffling hot ona day with little air movements or high humidity in areas where air con is either too expensive or unable to be installed. Not wanting their employees to be able to take a day off.
Trade Unions on the other hand want an upper limit to allow people to effectively walk out when the temperature reaches a certain level. Such as is with the minimum low level of 16 deg C
Either way its a hot topic, mind the pun
Des
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
It's the whole enabling versus prescriptive health & safety issue again.
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Posted By Chris Pope
I believe HSL have a thermal comfort predictor on the web somewhere - this tool predictst he percentage of your staff who are likely to be happy according to 5 variables - clothes worn, work done, Relative Humidity temperature and air movement if I remember correctly.
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Posted By Richie H
Totally irrellevant to UK legislation however in Saudi Arabia, the upper limit is 50 degrees C. Though it does pass that on numerous occassions you will never find a thermometer in the government offices to show this.
There has been a lot of research into heat stress / dehydration etc over here and as the summer months are approaching i am sure it will once again become the .... 'hot topic' sorry couldnt resist too!!
Richie
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