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#1 Posted : 05 May 2006 10:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Brede In order to guide architects and designers from a Planning Supervisor perspective can anyone advise me of any standards that exist for washing windows using water fed poles. I see that there are adverts for poles with reach of 60' but is there a maximum or other recommended parameters for this kind of work or where it is preferable to use MEWPs or other means of access. Thanks
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#2 Posted : 05 May 2006 10:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney David I have sent the information you require directly; if you need more let me know. CFT
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#3 Posted : 05 May 2006 11:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett Hi David Whilst I totally agree that all reasonable efforts should be taken to remove the need to work at height; you should also be aware that the devices that you mention will inevitably introduce a set of major manual handling issues that may actually be worse than the perceived risks of working at height. Thorough MH RA's will be essential if you intend to provide situations where the operator is working a pole application & cleaning system as the potential for back, shoulder & neck injury is high. It would be preferable to design out the need for both WaH & MH [reaching/stressing backs/overbalancing etc with pole systems] by utilising one of the many proprietary systems that bring the external surface inboard of the building line without either of the 2 issues raised being present. Frank Hallett
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#4 Posted : 05 May 2006 11:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus Hi David,if this is an existing building a 60 foot pole will present manual handling issues. I would not have thought that there were restrictions on using poles other than addressing the hazards when in use.The real problem with designers on new build is to get them to think safety not client. There are various designs of windows out there which can be cleaned from the inside of a building.It never fails to amaze me that on new build (houses or other)why designers never consider putting in eye bolt plugs or similar, at the correct spacings for scaffold when maintenance is to be carried out, or ladders used for short duration work
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#5 Posted : 08 May 2006 11:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Brede Thanks for the responses guys. The developers are seriously looking at the eyebolt points so this was because they did not want to put up scaffolding to clean windows. The solution most likely to be chosen is a small mewp that can go through standard doors so can be used inside and out.
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#6 Posted : 08 May 2006 12:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt David Probably a mewp point (ahem) this far in on the design stage but I note that according to Channel 4's Grand Designs program last week that Scottish Building Regs now asks that new build windows can be accessed from the inside. This may be of interest as it tackles the risk at source and I would imagine that many window suppliers across the UK want to do business in Scotland and may already have a tilt and fold option available. If this was already covered apologies I realise I have posted in haste without reading through everyones comments Kind regards Jeff
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