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Posted By Carrell
On with my risk assessment for those fork lift drivers who are out in our very uneven yard for 8-12 hour shifts. The trucks have hard wheels but do have seat suspension.
Asking around some of them do suffer from back pain from driving the fork lifts all day which suggests that the seat suspension isn't enough.
Where do I go from here? Do I get someone in to measure vibration exposure because I know nothing about how 0.5m/s2 or 1.15m/s2 would appear or even feel?!
Can someone please pass on advice of what to do next?
Carrie
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Posted By PST
Carrell
Your statement made me cringe, I don't think this is a vibration issue, hard wheels / uneven surface. You need a new yard surface, apart from damage to your vehicles and goods, think about the drivers. Back problems will be the least of their worries.
PST
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Posted By Chris Hall
Ive just re-read you post - uneaven yards and fork lift trucks do not go well together!!! its most likely this issue that want addressing as the shocks and jolts from driving over the uneaven/potholed areas are the source of the vibration!
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Posted By Carrell
My statement made you cringe? The situation here makes me cringe every day!
To resurface the yard will cost well over the £100K mark and our employers just won't be up for it :-( All I can do is gather all the information I can and put it forward. So can anyone recommend someone who can do WBV measurements in North Yorkshire area?
Thanks,
Carrie
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
Hi Carrie
Just a thought.
I could be wrong repeat wrong as it's been a while since I read the guidance but the HSE guidance may assume FLT's are already operating on a good surface therefore monitoring may be useless as it is trying to establish if the general machine operating vibration is enough to cause health problems where people have pre existing back problems. The situation as you state it is already telling us that the yard is the issue not the state of the machinery.
I bet if you ask for speed limiters on the FLT's as the only alternative to a flat yard your transport manager will have kittens.
Again just a suggestion but don't get the whole yard done just the bit with the most traffic and worst bumps. Patching might even do as a sticking plaster approach on the rest till you get the funds to redo the lot. I would get it shot down at director level before assuming that the funds aren't available to do the whole yard. £100K doesn't buy a lot of trucks these days or FLT's or Courtcases for that matter.
Sorry if that was just stating the obvious I do it a lot.
Kind regards
Jeff
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Posted By Carrell
Thanks,
I see your point about the difference between the state of the yard and vibration from the FLT's; Regs being more equipment related.
I'll order the ACoP and see if I can't glean some more info from it, i.e. whether or not measurements should be done in such situations or if it's down to a totally different Reg.
Carrie
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Apart from the injury potential, what about damage to the lift truck from continually working on rough terrain ? Solid tyres, no suspension: it doesn't bode well for the trucks life, does it. Of course, if the ground is really rough then the potential for overturning is high, especially with an uneven or loose load. http://www.theclaimline.com/success_stories.html
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Posted By Simon Walsh Grad IOSH
Forgive the post if this has already been mentioned, but is there the opportunity to introduce job rotation to cut down the level of exposure from vibrating fork lift seats?
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Posted By Innes Gray
Where is the Vibration is stopped on a forklift ?
Tyres
Forklift trucks have no suspension so.
Even with new tyres Cushion type (tires are made in layers starting hard in centre with a soft outer layer) worn tyres have less cushioning effect
On a good even floor surface a driver running over a pound coin would know he ran over something.
You don’t need a large hole, i have seen ridged concrete used to help traction and stop tyre slipping in a yard being a back jarring experience
Seat
When new the type of truck i sell comes with a suspension seat cost about £300 to replace being replaced with a £45 one No one ever thinks of the driver, cost is every thing you get what you pay for.
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Posted By Andrew1
Just a thought,does anyone know the average cost of a civil claim these days for back injury compensation, and can your company afford to finance such claims?
Andrew
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