Posted By Merv Newman A commendable effort, showing enthusiasm and commitment to the subject. Well done. I think all of us may well have done something like that, not necessarily paying out cash, but putting in a lot of personal time and effort so as to ensure that a work-related project is successful. The rewards do tend to come, eventually. In the mean time, think charitable, altruistic thoughts Perhaps, another time, it would be best to get some commitment from your employer beforehand ? Merv

Posted By Alan Hoskins Always best to find out what the 'agreement' is before agreeing - but that's easy to say in hindsight. However, I presume that your salary increase is a per annum arrangement and not just a one off payment? If so you will benefit in the longer term. Alan

Posted By Bob Thompson CMIOSH if the package is yours I would not feel guilty of selling your services elsewhere Bob

Posted By Christopher Kelly The point is - you are in a free market. You have given them something without agreeing terms up-front and they will always try it on, I know it's happened to me.

Posted By warderic Mark, putting aside the enjoyment of work and what we do and focusing on money alone. I was told many many years ago, when I first started work as a boy, the following " you come to work for a pile of money in return you take a pile of crap. Providing the money pile is higher then the crap pile youe are OK. If the crap pile gets higher then the money pile, find another job". It works for me.

Posted By Jo Scott Smith It may be that your organisation is being thick and really have not considered/are unaware about the amount of personal time and money you have put into this and what the comparable cost of an external consultant would have been. Perhaps you could provide them with this information and see if they still regard the pay rise they gave you as reasonable. Good Luck

Posted By stanley Well done Mark. But I still feel for you.In any feild of enderviour, there are huge challenges and considerations whem manegement got involved in an employee's situation.A round table will be in place to consider and evaluate the professional economic returns of one's abilities, contributions and enthusatism all in the development of the company.If you are luky enough, you will be largely appreciated.Unlucky, you are thrown down the tunnel. And I sincerely believed that this is what really you are passing through right this moment. Mark accept it or not.Do not look into the facts that surrender whether your pay rises or not.But look at the real reasons why you become a professional safety and health icon.Keep up to the good work.And my promises are that one day, either you will be called by a friend that was told to look on for a real HES guy or people in your company that have the real thoughts and understanding that you are really a good lad, will press for your increments.Believe me! Always remember to put up your hopes in God. Stanley.

Posted By SREdwards I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker. Not my words, Helen Keller.......

Posted By Glyn Atkinson Perhaps a wrong move to purchase a system without the fall back to receipt the invoice costs back to the employer? What would they have done if your purchase had not been made at all? Did they know the cost to you before you made this purchase? If not, should you have made it well known? Not unreasonable, a bit naive, perhaps, and trusting! And of course, they have now lost your trust and goodwill, haven't they??

Posted By Raymond Rapp David J In theory yes. However my current contract apparently had an administration error in it and the company have not honoured it. Now what do I do, resign or swallow it? Of course I have had to let it go - for the time being. Ray

Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH On last thing, The fact you bought the training package out of your own funds means, did the company refund the cost? the traing pack goes with you and does not stay with the employer, you can only deliver the training nobody else as you are the registered person. You might have already sused that one out. Regards