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#1 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven Work Experience!!!! I have done the usual risk assessment and have been pushed (extremely hard) into having a placement for a day to allow the student see what goes on in H&S. Any ideas how I am going to make this more interesting for the student and not make it seem like I go around telling people what they can and can’t do like a teacher and shout at everyone who hasn’t got their PPE on!!!! I have got a morning session for Manual Handling set up and may need to cancel it as I can’t see a student paying much interest in having to go back to a class room scenario. I could go through the whole H&S thing of RA, Law, Responsibilities, PPE, Permits, Procedures etc etc etc but I don’t want to preach like a teacher. I do see this as an opportunity to enlighten a young person into the pro’s and cons of working in H&S but don’t particularly want to teach them how to bang their heads against a brick wall!!!!! Any ideas appreciated. Steve
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#2 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillipe good luck !
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#3 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By PST Steven The best you can do is let this young budding HSE Officer follow you all day and explain "as you go" what is happening. He/she will ask questions no doubt. Ask them about their interests any relate safety to them, most young guns now a days can use a computer let them loose on the HSE website, give them topics to search for. Look on the bright side you have someone to carry your bag, make the tea and answer the phone!!
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#4 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary IMD(UK) Hi Steve, I'm glad you see it as an opportunity (your last paragraph) rather than a grind as this person is more than likely looking forward to their day with you! In terms of how to make it enjoyable, try getting them involved, make it practical and communicative, rather than 'one way' 'Teaching', and above all make it relevant to the real world and their own job. I have a small attention span and if I'm not involved, then fall asleep easily!! In terms of the manual handling, unfortunately there is a fear that all training is 'classroom' based. I deliver courses on H & S that are pragmatic, practical, the right amount of theory and give attendees an opportunity to try out the learning. i.e. Get them manual handling (under supervision initially), get them to carry out a risk assessment. If you were training someone to become a bricklayer, you wouldn't lecture them and tell them to read a book would you? You'd actually get them laying bricks! Badly at first, perhaps, but they will certainly know how to improve. When I first became involved with H & S training, it was my personal mission to ensure all my workshops were enjoyable and the learning taken away. Call me big-headed or even arrogant but the comments I receive during and after the workshops and my repeat business makes me very proud! Take care
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#5 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve B Steven, as you are probably aware, this year the European week of safety is targetted at young workers. so as a starting point you may want to get involved with that and use your young worker as an example of how to do it right and set an example for the rest of your company who are employing young workers/students. visit the web site for some ideas. Regards Steve B
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#6 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Steve, Don't cancel the training session. Why not get the trainee to play "Beaker" to your "Bunsen". Involve them in the preparation of the course or get them to look through the slides and provide any input. Complete some demonstrations together of e.g. safe lifting techniques (obviously without actual loads) during the presentation. Talk them through a suitably anonymised accident investigation you recently did, and see if their findings are similar to yours. It's somthing I'm also giving thought to at the moment as I may be having a placement in the near future.
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#7 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven Just to clarify the work experience placement is defined as a child in the eyes of the HSE (not yet reached the official age at which they may leave school, just before or just after their 16th birthday - MSLA)so ther are some restrictions as to what they are allowed to do.
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#8 Posted : 18 May 2006 14:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Basically that means you can't send them off to do their own thing unsupervised. I think that involving them in the training is acceptable in this context, you are there with them in a controlled environment. It's the sort of thing they might be expected to do at school in a drama lesson. However, do check beforehand with the placement superviser as interpretation of this clause varies about the country.
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#9 Posted : 18 May 2006 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven That is right, they will be supervised the whole time they are here. and we will not be allowed to exposes them to substances which are toxic or cause cancer; exposes them to radiation; expose then to extreme heat, noise or vibration. So i will be restricted in areas that i will be allowed to go for that day!!
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#10 Posted : 18 May 2006 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neal Clark Steven, we have recently launched Wiseup2work, a new website targeted at under 19s which aims to raise awareness of health and safety. The site includes interactive games, a chat forum and our national competition, SpeakUp which gives young people the chance to win VIP work experience days and iPod packs. Wiseup2work also features materials and guidance for teachers, training providers and employers. You can access the site by visiting www.wiseup2work.co.uk Hope that helps, Neal Clark, Web Co-ordinator
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#11 Posted : 18 May 2006 15:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven What a great web site, just had a quick look and its pretty good. Couldn't get past the forklift to work though!!!!!
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#12 Posted : 19 May 2006 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Vicky Pye hi steven I am a H & S Advisor for the Learning & Skills Council & would recommend you have a look on our webiste www.safelearner.info. If you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me
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#13 Posted : 19 May 2006 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gail M I am trying to break in to h&s and have asked companies if they would be willing to provide work experience. What I would hope for is the opportunity to see what we have learnt in the class room put in to every day practice. I would prefer to observe what actually happens in the work place and the kind of issues you deal with on a day to day basis, what is actually expected of you as the h&s officer, how as the h&s officer you interact with people in getting the massage across in a positive way, i.e good working practices, style of training, and more importantly management sysyems, how they work and samples of documents to give a real flavour of what living documents should contain.
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#14 Posted : 19 May 2006 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Diane Thomason We have had work experience students (School pupils) for a week at a time. They did enjoy it as we took them out on investigations etc, got them doing a bit of measuring and that sort of stuff, got one of them doing some plotting on a map, and they found it interesting. One student said it was the best placement they have had, as the others just had them photocopying nearly all day! As others have said, it's the work shadowing approach that works best - they can come with you and assist you.
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#15 Posted : 19 May 2006 15:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Chalkley Hi there, I have had a student do an accompanied inspection. They spot things and you discuss as you go. you can also point out things they have missed. Finally follow this throught with the training course. Job done. Richard
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#16 Posted : 20 May 2006 10:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope let them write the report.
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