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#1 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By LTN Do you do jobs that are probably not health and safety related? How do you feel about it? I'll expand more later....maybe...
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#2 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Used to have responsibility for site security, guards, cameras and so on. Merv
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#3 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby' LTN Access (and equality)...which I quite enjoyed, (and the conferences/seminars etc were usually more entertaining and divers than H&S ones), and their is the old balancing act with H&S to accomplish too...must have been halfway good at it as I'm always being contacted/refered to, even from places I left years ago Philby
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#4 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Bircham Always, be part of the business, not just the H&S bit. Get involved, understand what goes, make suggestions, help if you can even though it’s not your role. Then when the time comes when you need to make stuff happen, the doors are always open . .
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#5 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By renown LTN My role other than H&S, includes Quality Manager, Facilities Manager, Security, guards, cleaners, environment, and anything else that can't be slotted elsewhere!
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#6 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt Not really But they let me tie dusters to my elbows so that I clean the desk and chair as I type. I won't tell you where I put the floorbrush for sweeping as I walk. Jeff The Mortgage Slave
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#7 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby' Jeff, dusters on your elbows...your not a danger man...your a.... Morris Dancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Philby'
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#8 Posted : 26 May 2006 11:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Patrick Burns CMIOSH - SpDipEM - MIQA I now act as the Chairperson of our site Corporate Responsibility Team. Although the H&S and Environmental Aspects are already scoped into my Job description I also manage the "our people" and "community aspect". I also act as the local press contact as I am already doing this in publicising the community CR work that we do. I really enjoy my involvement in this area which saw us win an award as a team, thereby helping maintain the team ethos but it also focuses other people into other areas of responsibility out with their core function. I also look after a small workplace gym from general maintenance to purchase of equipment, inductions etc.
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#9 Posted : 26 May 2006 12:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt Philby I'll set them up and you knock then down sunshine. What a team. Jeff A heh nonny nonny and a flagan of mead.
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#10 Posted : 26 May 2006 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney Someone once waited 30 mins for me to arrive at the office to put out the cigarette bin which had caught fire - it wasn't their job, apparently. Another time the lift had stuck and instead of getting the caretaker they thought I could unstick it - I got the caretaker (who had the key) Both above despite notices. Wonder what they do now that I'm no longer there? - though they have phoned me at my new job. I haven't decided whether I'm indispensable or haven't given them enough training/info in the first place
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#11 Posted : 26 May 2006 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark c o'loughlin Admittedly am still studying but, in the past week i have tried to help a very old fashioned architect through a prelim. H & S plan, started two safety files for completed projects, re-stocked PPE, worked on site inductions for new project due to start in a few weeks, booked training for new staff AND helped clean gutters on a factory unit, unloaded formwork off a truck and loaded two skips. What can i say, it's a small company and you have to know when to put down the paperwork and pick up the shovel! Mark
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#12 Posted : 26 May 2006 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen Horton I used to help my boss with checking invoices against orders and then making sure that the payment cheques agreed with both before he signed them. I thought this a bit menial until he explained that he always asked me to help him as he trusted me to get it right and knew that I would spot any problems and speak up. I also always helped with stock checking - I had responsibility for waste management too so it was a good way of finding out, first hand, what was being stored and what was going to be scrapped. I could then keep a step ahead of scrap notifications from the works and have contracts ready for its removal before we drowned in the stuff! Like some of the other posters I think it is essential to "get stuck into the business" warts and all. If you do that you get to understand what makes the business and the managers in it tick and that gives you important insights into how to motivate and persuade them when you need them to take a particular course of action or support you in something.
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#13 Posted : 26 May 2006 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp I agree that a certain amount of diversity is not so bad but unfortunately there are times when we seem to be doing all and sundries jobs. For example, a little while ago I got a call regarding an alleged harassment incident by one of our site manager's. The third party asked me how I would like to deal with it. I replied 'as quickly as possible'. I arranged for the site manager to write a letter of apology, stating that his intentions had been misconstrued and signed by him. That closed the matter out. Can I add this to my CV - harassment counsellor? Regards
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#14 Posted : 26 May 2006 13:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham Changing light bulbs replenishment of soap in toilets fixing leaks in toilets replenishment of bog roll fixing toilet seats fixing door handle replacment of broken kettle replacement of broken microwave ordering of all PPE (even though there is a procurement department) having vending machine fixed, filled ect fixing entry buzzer removing paper jam from photocopier arranging repair of FLT Inter Alia, all of these have been claimed to be a health and safety issue for one reason or another. Perhaps you can guess what the reasons where
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#15 Posted : 26 May 2006 15:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By LTN The reason I asked is because I do sometimes think that we give advice to others about their health, safety and welfare but do we apply the same advice to ourselves in doing other jobs? A bit like doctors being bad patients. Yes I agree that there are other jobs which are not really health and safety but they are fulfilling to be involved with such as sustainability and corporate responsibility where H&S has a role in too, as well as the fact that you get to understand the whole business and how H&S fits into the whole. However I don't see any other traditional roles being used or misused in the same way. It's all the (trivial)little jobs (which should be someone else's responsibility)where you do think is my time best served this way e.g. moving furniture or should it be spent reviewing all our procedures and assessments and even working on my CPD if I have time. I just wonder if we are being too helpful? spreading ourselves too thin? or our roles not clear? or is it the best way to work to understand the H&S aspects of our business.
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