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#1 Posted : 09 June 2006 11:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Folks, Seen this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5062120.stm ? John
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#2 Posted : 09 June 2006 11:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Jackson How tall was their ladder? Or how low were the cables?
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#3 Posted : 09 June 2006 11:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Looking at the ladders they were no more than double 3.5m so one does have to wonder how they managed to touch o/h power lines which would normally be some 7.5m+ above ground level. It was just a "tragic accident" really irks me. The painters clearly failed to think about the cables but what part of the system failed thus allowing such high voltages to be so close to ground level? Did the original site developer re-landscape the ground in spite of the presence of the cables? Alternatively were the cables poorly maintained or incorrectly erected? I rather doubt the latter. The only certainty is that the clearance was too little in my view at any rate. Bob
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#4 Posted : 09 June 2006 12:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Bob, I quite agree; the phrase 'tragic accident' seemed to trip gaily out of the mouths of almost everybody quoted in the article; I suppose its the 'common sense' view, but it just illustrates how much work we still have to do before this kind of thing stops happening, John
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#5 Posted : 09 June 2006 15:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald Dear Rob and J. I read the article and have to say that the people interviewed had little option to use the words "tragic accident" They were not to blame, and unlike some did not want to be too judgemental or insensitive before knowing all the facts. I don't get your point about the phrase. It was an accident and as two people died, pretty tragic. Peter
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#6 Posted : 09 June 2006 15:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Peter, Well, I suppose its just that incidents always have causes, and the term accident implies that there was no cause, and that there was a certain inevitablity or fate involved, or at least it does to me. I wouldn't disagree that two deaths is a dreadful calamity, and that condolences to the bereaved are in order; but just as the Police no longer use the term RTA, preferring to use Road Traffic Collision, I would like to see more thought about the use of the word 'accident', John
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#7 Posted : 12 June 2006 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Peter I would have had absolutely no problems with a phrase such as " dreadful tragedy". The phrase "tragic accident" is so abundantly used however that it has ceased to have real meaning and can be interpreted by grieving relatives to mean that there was nobody at fault in all of the events. Believe me I have heard this response to the phrase a number of times over the years. The use of cliched language is something we all need to avoid, but unfortunately it is rife in the media and many other places throughout society. It seems to be a defensive/apologetic methodology used to avoid facing some of the hard facts of life or when seeking to establish a particular view. Witness the disparity of language between pro-lifers and pro-choice wrt abortion. On one side it is murder of an existing life and on the other it a medical removal of unwanted cells. Our language can often portray hidden agendas that we are actually seeking to impose on others, conciously or unconciously. Bob
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