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Posted By tip pugh
After visiting a garden centre yesterday with my family, we decided to take the scenic route home. This required us to take a small short cut through an industrial estate, what I witnessed there I only wish that I was brave enough to ask for photographic evidence to back up my story.
Try to imagine the scene if you can, in front of a small industrial unit stood a very large gent in trousers and muscle vest ( or it was just a tiny bit small for his frame ). He was perched on a broken wooden pallet, which was hoisted about 8ft in the air on a folk lift truck, the folk lift truck was being driven by what looked like a 10 year old child, I kid you not. In his right hand only he was attempting to cut through the brick wall of the industrial unit with a still saw, trying to cover his eyes with his left eye.
I know I should have spoken to him but the thought of getting a slap for my efforts, sort of laid rest to the area.
On returning to work and mentioning this to my colleague's, these sort of incidents are not uncommon. Only last week a colleague of mine was in a well known cheap supermarket when he witnessed one of the staff there jump onto a mini folk lift and raise herself up to the higher shelves and then moved the forklift while she was elevated.
Has anyone else got any similar stories to tell, tell us all spread the madness
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Posted By Descarte
walking past the metal workshops on our estate, some guy is there welding, screened to the inside and his work mates , but since they had the door open which they often do, arc was in full view of any one and everyone going past, distance to public footpast is maybe like 15-20 feet.
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Posted By Lorraine Shuker
Two guys on on of these 'zig zag' shaped roofs where one side is slates and the other is vertical glass panes. They are cleaning moss and weeds from the tiles and gutters. One guys tries to climb up the slates, slips and starts 'surfing' down towards vertical glass skylights. Manages to stop himself by grabbing onto a metal chimney. Grins like a maniac then does it AGAIN!
I did get pictures and I did report it
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Posted By col
my son in law is in the army (lance corporal), when he told me about how they use the fork lifts i politely told him they couldnt use them for transporting people on the forks,and driving fast around site looking down the side of the containers, his response was you tell the capt. coz i will brought up on a charge for not carrying out orders.I tried to explain that they too have to comply and that if they were breaking legislation then they could refuse under the HSWA. boy did it spark a debate, only when I discussed it to a senior nco (friend) he agreed with me but had to agree with my son in law that they had to do what they told. wonder what the capt's defense would have been if someone was severly injured, I was only following orders??
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Posted By Merv Newman
I have long ago given up taken photos on building sites and in ware houses. A total waste of film as I've already got a dozen or so photos of the same situation.
I reckon that the only way you can do something is to take the time to find local management. Be very apologetic, present your credentials and qualifications and, in a friendly manner, discuss your observations with them.
They may listen to you. They may take action. They may not. But short of reporting them, and later presenting evidence in court, what else can you do ?
Well you could try kicking, screaming and shouting. But who wants to be physically thrown off site ? Or having them complain to the police that you are trespassing and disturbing the peace ?
It's a dirty job, but you choose (or not) to do it. dontja ?
Merv
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Posted By DANGER RANGER
This happens all of the time.
Not so long ago before my safety days I watched my two managers come up with an Idea on how to hook some cable onto the roof rafters.
This involved stacking 12-14 pallets on top of each other and then lifting man on top of pallets via forks and then lifting the pile while as it was swaying.
They turned round to me and said that I could not do this sort of thing unless they were there to supervise. I agreed with them that I would never try such a thing on my own or in their presence (Bloody Idiots).
Mind you, I cannot slate anyone at the moment. I washed my fish tank with jeyes fluid this weekend whilst the fish were in a temporary tank soaking in the sun. I forgot to fully flush out the filter so after 1 hour of placing fish back into tank, all six were swimming upside down with eyeballs rolling and mouths going ten to the dozen. Managed to save them though I think they now have some learning difficulties and seem to miss their food and bump into tank a lot.
My other half has not stopped giving it me in the neck. Health and safety this and health and safety that she says. No bloody common sense the lot of you she says.
Sorry folks, I have bought the profession into disrepute.
Jeyes fluid aint half good though init
Thank God I have my secret name now :)
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Posted By johnwaterson2773
Hi Col,
I too was in the services, as the unit H&S Officer and at no time would I have any of my soldiers do waht he has mentioned. And if I was to come across anything untowards then it would be reported. All this he can't report it because he will be put on a charge is a bit far fetched to say the least. If he gets no repsonse from his immediate boss he should go to the RSM or Adjt.
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Posted By Gambit
Hi Col,
I, too, am ex-army. If you can find the local military Environmental Health team, I think they would be most interested in this!
Ta
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Posted By The toecap
And i've never ever seen an army risk assesment. I have cleaned weapons many times and never seen a coshh assesment. I asked the armourer for gloves and he said i should get my own. The next thing i know there's oil all over my hands and no gloves. How bad is that
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Posted By col
thanx for the response to the army, believe me it is not far fetched as suggested. my son in law is serving in dulmen at the moment and I can assure you that the things I mentioned and more do happen in the army. Many moons ago (longer than i care to remember, god Im getting old)I was enlisted in the engineers and I have first hand experience what your can superiors can get away with. I had an accident in the forces due to neglect and was discharged under services no longer required and not medically due to believing in the major, (that cost me dearly)
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Posted By Descarte
When I was in the army the only safety info I got told was that the glowing point in the SA80 rifle scope (SUSAT?) was actually radioactive, so if the sight broke leave it and dont try to pick up the peices
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