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#1 Posted : 15 June 2006 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilles27 Can anybody assist with some thoughts? A friend of mine is a practicing nail technician and has asked me for advise on RPE. The nuisance mask she currently uses isn't doing the job as she still experiences dust penetration despite reasonable LEV. As it is a new industry I am struggling to find tangible info on what FFP factor she will be best to use. Any ideas? I know its a bit of a 'piece of string' type question but if FFP2 will do the job (which is my guess) why wear a full Phantom? Thanks
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#2 Posted : 15 June 2006 14:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jerry Lucey Hi Gilles, It is good to see that LEV has been provided and not knowing your friends particular circumstances I would recommend that the effectiveness of the LEV be assessed to begin with. The LEV may be of a good standard, but if set-up or sited incorrectly it may be ineffective or may even increase the risk i.e. it may draw the dust directly into the worker's breathing zone.
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#3 Posted : 15 June 2006 14:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilles27 Although I haven't really investigated properly yet the LEV seems okay - it pulls air downwards through the workbench and exhausts to outside. The worrying thing to me is it is clearly not collecting everything but there is a balance to be sought between industrial noise levels and a nice ambient studio atmosphere.
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#4 Posted : 15 June 2006 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jerry Lucey While I am not an expert on LEVs it would appear that your LEV is drawing the dust away from the operator's breathing zone, which is important. Some of the important variables when looking at LEVs are transport velocity and capture velocity. If you had access to a suitably qualified engineer, perhaps these are areas that might be worth looking at. The capture velocity would probably be the most important in your case. RPE/ PPE is important and you are correct in examing this area as well.
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#5 Posted : 15 June 2006 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte If I rmemeber correctly this has been raised on the forums before,
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#6 Posted : 15 June 2006 14:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte OK too a bit of digging and I found it, however it was not realy that relevant http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=1&thread=17031
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#7 Posted : 15 June 2006 14:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilles27 Nice one - thanks, made me laugh that thread, but yes unfortunately not much help!
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#8 Posted : 15 June 2006 19:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob Yuill I would have thought that dust is the last of a Nail Techie's problems. The fumes from Acetone and other organic solvents used for soaking/stripping nails is enough to send then off the wall. I ventured into a salon (once) to meet my other half and had to leave, the fumes were that strong! That is in addition to storage issues and disposal of solvent saturated waste! All the Techies were from the Far East (no not East London!), and could hardly speak a word of English. EHO's where are you? Comments invited. Rob
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#9 Posted : 09 August 2006 14:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Purex Hello, I was googling today and came across this thread. We are a fume extraction company who have experience in this field. Podiatrist are also affected by breathing nail dust. We have some resources on our site http://www.salonstore.co.uk if you would like a read. I know commercial posts in forums are a no no but I thought I could help you with some information. Hope this helps.
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#10 Posted : 09 August 2006 14:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt Everyday is a schoolday. I thought fake nails were bits of plastic stuck on with UHU, turns out they are moulded in situ with monomers and peroxide catalysts, takes up to 2hrs. Round of applause for the sorority. Jeff
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#11 Posted : 09 August 2006 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By pol Hi there, The article below does not focus on LEV but may contain other useful information regarding MMA's, EMA and PMMA often used in the nail industry and linked with resp sensitisation, dermatitis, nail loss etc. http://www.cieh.org/ehp/...ety/articles/nailing_the _hazzards.htm Regarding the LEV requirements we would require the employer to provide evidence that the equipment is both suitable and sufficient ie: documented testing results by a competent person. Hope this is of use, contact my e-mail if I can provide any more info Pol
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#12 Posted : 09 August 2006 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jon Young Pol, the link says page not found?
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#13 Posted : 09 August 2006 16:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Derek Pratt HSE is doing some work on nail bars and beauty salons generally. The aim is to provide improved guidance for the industry and EHOs. The contact is Graham Bell on 0151 951 3705.
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#14 Posted : 09 August 2006 16:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham When you say "nail technician", is your friend actually working in a salon, vis-a-vis a customer, or is he/she working away from customers? If this is in a workshop, then it should not be too difficult to ensure that the downdraft bench (which it appears is being used) works adequately so that no RPE is actually required. This would certainly be my preferred option, rather than concern myself at this stage with the RPE. Have you done any air velocity movements for the bench? I would measure immediately at the bench surface and then slightly above where the dust is being created. If the velocity is not high enough (as it appears) to adequately control the dust, then there are various options open to you. This need not be a larger motor or fan. If you are not familiar with the basics of LEV, then I would recommend you get hold of a copy of HSG37. This should provide you with some ideas. If you still need some help, feel free to contact me direct (01386 832 311) Chris
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#15 Posted : 10 August 2006 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Williams Just focusing on the LEV for a second or two more. Just becuase it is extracting does not actually mean its working? The only way to tell if it truly works is to measure the capture velocity, the face velocity and the transport velocity at points along the ducting to the outlet. Is the velocity high enough at all points in the ducting not just at the capture point? Where does it actually extract to? Ash
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