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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Following a recent event where I quoted the Code of Conduct, I wonder how many IOSH members have read the IOSH Code of Conduct or are even aware of its existence. Those that are, have you ever had any reason to refer or quote the document? I suspect that we all have or will compromise the COC document, either wittingly or unwittingly during some point our career.
I would be interested in your comments or perhaps any real life examples if you feel so inclined.
Regards
Ray
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Posted By Gilles27
When I originally joined IOSH I certainly read the code of conduct and (thankfully) as a practitioner person of professional integrity etc. (yawn) I found nothing in it that I felt needed especially remembering to make sure I didn't breach it. This thread has intrigued me, so I think I will revisit it, just in case!
Thanks
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Its easier to understand than the Law Society!!!!!
Bob
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith
If you do a search on this web site, you will see that I have made reference to this code on a number of occasions.
I have also considered studying OH&S ethics (or potential ethical gaps) as a PhD thesis.
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Posted By Mark Mace
code point 7 requires that where our advice is being ignored/overuled, we must inform the person/s in question of the likely outcome.
obviously legal requirements but what about moral dilemas, best practice.
Also how do you inform the employer that they are wrong even when done very nicely with all the facts and figures and benefits some employers would not like this, and in some instances would you still have a job at the end of it. Not all companies are in the 21st century yet.
regards
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Posted By Tim
Arran
Don't want to compromise code of conduct but PhDs must be easy come by if you think you could get one for that study.
Tim
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke
Hhi folks
I make all our NVQ candidates review it and put a copy in their portfolio!
I like the bits about not slagging off another practitioner and not poaching business... Well I can name a few people that don't abide by it.
Ah well.
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Linda
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith
Tim,
Sorry, but I totally disagree with your statement. Ethics is very much a complex process because it is subjective, deals with many different issues including cultural issues and much of it is based upon morality.
Wikipedia describes this as:
Ethics (from Greek ???? meaning "custom") is the branch of axiology, one of the four major branches of philosophy, which attempts to understand the nature of morality; to distinguish that which is right from that which is wrong. The Western tradition of ethics is sometimes called moral philosophy. Ethics in plain words means studying and analyzing right from wrong; good from bad.
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Posted By Merv Newman
"studying and analysing" Hmmm. Not necessarily "having" ?
And no, I haven't looked at the code of conduct since it arrived.
And yes, I do discuss consequences of not following recommendations. That's part of the job, innit ?
And yes, I have (once) walked away from a job. Because site management (on whom I had been imposed by head office) didn't want to know.
I billed one day to HO insted of the 10 contracted and signed for.
I tell you, THAT SMARTS ! Particularly when you can't replace the 9 lost days. (the only non-renewable resource a consultant has is DAYS)
Merv
In an hotel in the middle of France and I can't tell you what I'm having for dinner. (moderators don't like me doing that) But I do have a view over the swimming pool, and it's 30°C out there.
Please do not reply solely to comment on dinner, swimming pool or moderators. (that's what they don't like) Any reply should have a safety content related to this thread. Thankyou.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Have totally to agree with Arran concerning "Ethics" and ethical standards. There are many issues subsumed into this and it is important to know how and where we gather the information from in order to bring together a final decision. All ethical codes draw heavily on what used to be termed Moral Theology, and similar terms, but this secular society prefers to blunt the issues with questions of individual rights.
Institutional codes have very real roots in absolute standards of conduct and this is potentially why some find them rather arcane. Our clients, in the broadest sense of this word, are however protected by our proper adherence to the rules imposed.
Bob
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