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#1 Posted : 16 June 2006 14:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anwar Afzal Landlord has 3 Business units in Building including residntial flats, and 2 other units ocuppied by external tenants. No fire alarm in the external units but they will have an effect on landlords business if there was a fire. All units have separate entrances and there are no communal areas shared between. Does lanlord have duty to provide alarm to the external business? if not, what happens if tenants don't comply and the risk is serious?
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#2 Posted : 16 June 2006 23:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson From Oct it will be a legal requirement to undertake a Fire Risk Assessment so if this is done properly then your fears should be alleviated. You can download from the Office of The Deputy Prime minister http://www.odpm.gov.uk/ free leaflets / books on how to do this!
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#3 Posted : 17 June 2006 11:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anwar Afzal Dave I am aware of that but problem is if they don't want to comply with their part and the risk is to us. No good prosecuting after we have had someone killed or injured or in this many of them.
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#4 Posted : 17 June 2006 14:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH if you are that concerned, then why dont you report the Landlord to both the Fire Brigade and the LA who issue a licence MOH if the property is over 3 stories in height.
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#5 Posted : 19 June 2006 10:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anwar Afzal Hi Jonathan Could have doen that ages ago, but two reasons why i have not reported them as yet. 1. Need to be sure that we are not repsonsible in any way. 2. They are threatning to claim Diplomtic immunity and still unsure how we deal with that? The tenants are a foreign consulate.
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#6 Posted : 19 June 2006 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH please email direct as it might be easier to answer that way. just click on my name. regards
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#7 Posted : 19 June 2006 22:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anwar Afzal Jonathan Tried the link to your email but some reasons its not working or i can't seem to access it.
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#8 Posted : 20 June 2006 07:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eden Firstly : Fire risk assessments have been a legal requirement for several years not just from October. Secondly the tennant may be foreign but they still need to comply with UK legislation unless the building is part of their consulate and classed as foreign soil.
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#9 Posted : 20 June 2006 09:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anwar Afzal You've hit the nail on the head, yes that part of the building is classed as on foreign soil and therefore not under English law or so i believe that to be the case? I am just going to try and deal with the main problem by paying for a system that will protect us and them and add it to their service charge, but again if they dont wish to follow the fire procedures i am limited to doing anything?
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