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Posted By Jim-F
I heard that an accident happened recently where two guys were working in a cherry picker and 1 guy had a harness and the other didnt however my information is that both were killed. Anyone know anything about this, I would like to use the information of these unfortunate souls to educate our workforce. not sure of the location
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Posted By Ali
An interesting one. Harness + lanyard comprises PPE and we are always told by the HSE (also mentioned in PPE Regs) that PPE is "the last resort" and that priority should always be given to a safe system of work. The WAH Regs defines a Hierarchy of Controls to take and PPE is, not surprisingly, half way down. First is Avoidance, then Fall prevention (guard rails etc) where collective is better than personal, then Fall arrest such as bags / nets where collective again takes precedence over personal measures (PPE. Using this guidance, a well guarded safety cage with toeboards should be adequate so long as the operative doesn't try to lean out, over reach etc. Of course, there is nothing to stop you adding PPE to this safe system of work, providing it doesn't replace it or compromise it in any way. Does this help ?
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Posted By Bill Parkinson
There will always be occasions where MEWPs will need to be used, especially for short term work. The people using them (i.e. those in the cradle) should be trained in its use and all persons should wear fall arrest harnesses and the appropriate lanyard. It is impractical to use nets or air bags as the platform moves (hence the word mobile) and even with adequate rails and toeboards incidents do happen as in some MEWPs the cradle can be tilted so can tip the occupants out.
It all comes down to the risk assessment identifying adequate controls measures such as appropriate training, walk round of area of work, ensuring safety of those working below or excluding them from area etc. Until we can eliminate the use of MEWPs there will always be a risk and therefore the potential to have incidents.
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Posted By Ian Chamberlain
the IPAF recommendation on this is that all users of a MEWP use a harness and a 'RESTRAINT LANYARD' a fall arrest lanyard will not save the casualty until around 14' at least. The restraint lanyard is there to stop occupants climbing out of the basket, therefore remove the chance of a fall all together, the exception would ba a sissor lift where restraint would stop the occupant moving freely to do their jop, as per risk assesment.
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Posted By Martin Taylor
this discussion on harnesses is a perennial with us - can anybody give a reference on the IPAF guidance and are restaint lanyards readily available as fall arrest are?
Martin
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Posted By Bill Fisher
Jim
My understanding that two guys were working in a cherrypicker in the Highlands when the basket mechanism failed. As the two were wearing harnesses they were prevented from falling and survived. I think there was a maintenance issue.
As for harnesses - the safe system of work for cherrypicker, as endorsed by HSE 'guidance' is that the area around the machine should be cordoned off to prevent vehicle strikes and harnesses be worn to protect should the above happen or due to a vehicle strike prevent them being thrown out.
See HSE 'guidance' at http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/misc614.pdf
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Posted By Ian Chamberlain
The T5 accident involved falls from a MEWP, a scissor lift to be precise, this was July/August last year, one guy was killed the other seriously injured, reports i heard is that neither were wearing harnesses, but not sure on that as T5 are hot on safety!!
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Posted By JAI
Jumping on the thread
Are you allowed to work on your own in a MEWP or should you be in pairs in case of an emergency
Jai
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Posted By NLR
As a reply specifically to Ian, the guy that was fatally injured on T5 was not working in a MEWP at the time.
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Posted By Ian Chamberlain
Jai,
you should work in pairs as someone on the ground can lower a MEWP from the ground controls should there be a problem, as long as they have been instructed how to do so!!
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