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#1 Posted : 30 June 2006 11:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis I hear that a consultation is to take place on this - watch out on the HSE website. Bob
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#2 Posted : 30 June 2006 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Bob, How would this work? HSC is HSE's directing body, is this just removing one tier of management, because in effect the HSC would just disappear wouldn't it? John
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#3 Posted : 30 June 2006 11:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard Bob. Would this not be in direct contravention of HASAW etc Act 1974 section 10? I know regulations are amended with regularity but Act? Been a while since I studied Law but thought this would require a full parliamentary procedure and a new Act, The Health and Safety at work etc Act 2007? Brian
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#4 Posted : 30 June 2006 13:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi There is an HSC paper that will be discussed by the HSC at its meeting on 4th July- that can be accessed at:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/ab...ings/2006/040706/c57.pdf The HSC paper indicates a Consultative Document for the proposals in November 2006 with a view to recommdations to ministers in Spring 2007.
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#5 Posted : 30 June 2006 13:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh And the difference we would notice would be?
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#6 Posted : 30 June 2006 16:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Hammond My understanding is that HSC is a tripartite body comprising of the TUC, CBI and HSE. When the Tories were in power, I heard that Michael Heseltine did not like tripartite bodies and closed a number of them down - such as the foody one which I think was called NADO or something like that - I know this because a friend worked for that organisation. HSC survived the cull back then but maybe not for much longer? I think it would be a shame as the HSC has seemed to made some pretty balanced decisions over the years?
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#7 Posted : 30 June 2006 16:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis A personal view is that cost lies at the root of this somewhere. The paper indicates cost savings as a probability but I doubt it will be re-invested in the front line. The model seems to be a bit similar to the BBC an Executive arm and a tripartite Board of Governers. I wonder if such an idea will work. Personally I think that the legislation changes required will also herald a move to separating enforcement and advice sectors. It is confusing sometimes to know which HSE hat is being worn. Bob
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#8 Posted : 30 June 2006 17:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Williams Ah, is this a chance for the current government to exercise the hidden powers of the Regulatory Reform provisions and change any act or regualtion they wish for their own reasons, without a vote in the house? Ash
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#9 Posted : 30 June 2006 22:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi Let us await the Consultative Document for details. Even the Robens report had recommended a single body. Look at the Environment Agency model. The EA advises & enforces, but does not have a seperate equivalent to the HSC. The savings referred to are miniscule in terms of budget--in fact it refers to transferring a post from the HSE Policy unit. It refers to a more efficient working as a single entity--and maintaining the tripartriate nature.
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#10 Posted : 07 July 2006 16:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ali HSC = policy maker HSE = enforcer Is this a cost cutting exercise ? Ali
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