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#1 Posted : 03 July 2006 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By mancman Can anyone recommend a "good" training provider for an accident investigation training course within the Manchester/Lancashire Area. Thanks
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#2 Posted : 03 July 2006 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Power You can contact myself or Graham Jones on 0151 547 7660.
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#3 Posted : 03 July 2006 21:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian H Peter I have emailed you direct with our details. We are based in Manchester. Kind regards Ian
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#4 Posted : 03 July 2006 22:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Elliott The best H&S course i have ever done was the IOSH 4 days Accident investigation course at the Grange. Mark
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#5 Posted : 03 July 2006 23:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Cathy Ricketts The trainer who ran the train the trainer course at IOSH was an accident investigator and ran a specific course in that subject. He was a good trainer cant remember his name only that he lives in France and works in UK sure IOSH training dept would know - had loads of practical experience
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#6 Posted : 04 July 2006 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus Are we talking cuts / broken arm type scenario's or Buncfield here. Surely you can read up on accident investigation and set up your own format. I would have thought that company H & S personnel would not require anything other than some form of internaly provided training unless it was a major accident of the type ID above
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#7 Posted : 04 July 2006 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary IMD(UK) Salus, The only problem, 'sometimes' with HR run courses, is that they are not provided by a 'competent Trainer'. I say 'sometimes' to avoid 6 responses arguing the merits of 'competent' or 'what qualification do you need to become a trainer'. However, as I am sure you are aware, there are many people out there who have the knowledge of the subject, but no skill in delivering the message. Alternatively, there are people who have the skill to deliver... but insufficient knowledge! Someone with a bit of each would be ideal! You are of course quite right in terms of the individual situation, i.e. low risk or high risk environment, generally. Take care!
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#8 Posted : 04 July 2006 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus Gary, my comment was general and not aimed at anyone, my apologies if it appeared that way.
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#9 Posted : 04 July 2006 10:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By DJ Please feel free to contact me by email, or on 07765 40525 Regards. DJ
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#10 Posted : 04 July 2006 11:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary IMD(UK) Salus, No problem at all... Actually I hadn't interpreted it that way and hope you didn't think I was having a 'pop'?! My main point was that many companies get 'Joe Bloggs' to train people, because he has years of experience in the subject (whatever subject). Joe Bloggs then struggles to make his point and introduce any effective learning because of the way it is structured or delivered! You can take a horse to water... Take care and have a good day!
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#11 Posted : 18 July 2006 19:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By I R Langston I am the tutor mentioned by Mark Elliott. If you want to discuss either the course at the Grange or in house courses please feel free to contact me on 0787 678 5301 or e.mail ian.langston@wanadoo.fr. I will be pleased to discuss any information that I have and send you through the PD sylabus for both the two and four day courses
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#12 Posted : 18 July 2006 20:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By shane Gary I note the "you can take a horse to water.." comment. A great tutor in the Royal Marines (I was a medic) once told me that while that might be true, we can lead them to water, we cant make them drink but its our duty to make them thirsty!! Regards
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#13 Posted : 19 July 2006 00:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By I R Langston Tutors, tutors, tutors. It is surely essential that an organisation satisfies itself as to the professional abilities of the tutors it uses. Without doing this it could be said that an individual had received ineffective training – so what is the level one expects? To teach in an FE college one requires a Cert. Ed in Adult Education; so what qualification in education does one really need to be able to teach a subject that effects ones health and safety?
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#14 Posted : 19 July 2006 08:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Further other people's comments. The IOSH course run by Ian Langstone was superb. I've been on quite a few courses in my time and can say that Ian is one of the best tutors I've ever seen in action
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