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#1 Posted : 11 July 2006 17:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Heatley I am looking to update our information leaflets and would like some official or otherwise leaflet that details all the pros and cons of Caffeine. Please e-mail me if you have anything on: karen.mackenzie@scotland.gsi.gov.uk. Many thanks
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#2 Posted : 11 July 2006 17:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Hi Karen Doesn't take much to stir our interest and have us all searching the net for info does it? Don't know if you will find what you looking for on the net, but reading through these sites makes me think about sticking to water with the occasional drink of spirits and wine and other things that are bad for me. http://www.medic8.com/he...e/articles/caffeine.html http://www.cosic.org/background-on-caffeine http://www.priory.com/pharmol/caffeine.htm http://www.drugscope.org...%5C1%5C1%5Ccaffeine.html Happy hunting.
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#3 Posted : 11 July 2006 18:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP Try the medical advisory service www.medicaladvisoryservice.org.uk
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#4 Posted : 12 July 2006 08:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson No, I'm not looking at those nasty information sites !! - I NEED that caffeine !! - I live for the rush to get through that plethera of safety problems, meetings where there is a requirement for safety personnel attendance and no safety topics on the agenda and then there's the irate production managers !! I won't give it up, so there !! Now seriously, Does anyone have information on the effects of products like Pro-Plus or Red Bull, both of which have been found in our works as empty tins or packets? I worry if our work force doing repetitive work are relying on these types of products to get them through a long, tedious production day. Has anyone got any Occ Health non data protected investigation findings that could be shared, please? PS - we've never actually caught anyone in the action of taking any of these products, so very hard to get feedback on why they are in use.
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#5 Posted : 12 July 2006 10:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By AlB Have you got a canteen on site? If so, do you sell coffee or cola? These contain caffeine. I drink around 5 coffees a day, sometimes even more, depending on the day's schedule, pressure of completing work etc. It calms me when I'm at the desk typing away at the computer. Is the issue the monotony of the work, or are people out partying all night, then going to work for a 6 am start? May be deeper problems than just boredom at work!
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#6 Posted : 12 July 2006 13:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen Horton Hi - interesting question, never forget that caffeine is in effect a very powerful drug. I put caffeine into a search engine looking for psychological and physical effects and got some interesting material back. There's no need to look at the alternative medicine sites there's plenty of main stream medical research out there on how caffeine affects the brain and body. It seems that at lower levels (200mg - 1 cup coffee) it produces pleasant stimulutory affects but at above 500mg the effects are detrimental. The detrimental effects seem to be related to manual dexterity, concentration, hyperactivity and hyperesthesia. I had to look up the last one, it means that senses are over reacting to stimuli, particularly skin sensitivity to touch. So the dangers are relative to what they are doing, if they need high levels of dexterity, quick reactions and focussed concentration then they are not going to get it from the likes of Red Bull. Here is the site address for one of the articles I found, there are plenty more out there very illuminating www.psycom.net/caffeine.html
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#7 Posted : 12 July 2006 14:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman 1. Carefull about the water. Remember the classic coshh sheet ? It's corrosive, and toxic if taken to excess. Should be diluted with whisky (or whiskey) 2. Read the web sites on caffeine with a pinch of salt. Everyone has their axe to grind or their kettle to boil. 3. I worry more about the sugar substitutes. I know, from my wife's experience after eating "low fat" yoghurts, that aspartam can be really, really nasty. e-mail for more details Merv
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#8 Posted : 12 July 2006 14:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Merv Aspartame is one of the best thirst creators around and a very good laxative for many. Just wonder why they put it into drinks. Probably helps the dehydration after the runs. Caffeine is a problem for some people though and I know a number who try to cut it out too quickly - many suffer from headaches for a time. I am trying to cut down, I find a good single malt the best but it does restrict the driving. I have not seen much material around though. Bob
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#9 Posted : 12 July 2006 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Aspartame is used in nearly every drink product and quite a few food products. I once tried looking for a fruit squash to add to water which didnt have it in, the ONLY one I could find was ribena full sugar. Its a sweetner and was hailed in tye US to being a miracle substance pushed through the FDA with little or no testing and now there seems to be a barrage of pro vs con Aspartame similar to the old does smoking cause cancer wars. Main problems are due to the disbalance of amino acids in the body it causes, there are guideline limits set which are quite high and you would have to drink 5 litres of red bull to exceed. Proplus would probably be better for you, but remember it is a diuretic so drink lots of water. Caffeine also has had various studies in the past both showing positive and negatives outcomes to things like causing cancers etc... Like everything these all have recommended daily intake levels often dependant on body mass, such as OEL's stay within the guidelines and you'll probably do alright but have an increased risk if only slight. Didnt they ban red bull in turkey after 2 people died from heart attacks within a couple of weeks directly linked to red bull? I would probably refrain from excessive caffiene intake if you suffer from high blood pressure or heart problems etc. Other than that it is probably fine in moderation, things like tea and coffee contain anti-oxidants which can prevent cancers as well as caffiene which has potential to increase risk. Its hard to decide who to belive, for every one study which says one thing another will contradict it, obviously depending on the sources will result in what you belive, but then who do you trust when the whole world revolves around money.... ok I added more hear but its turning in to a rant and thought that mentioning politicians and certain CEO's would probably get the post pulled. Better go make myself a cup o tea and relax 0.o
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