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Posted By Karen1
Hi
Does anyone have these at their place of work? I've been asked by my boss to find out what other companies do, whether they have defibrilators and what their views are on them.
If anyone does have them or has a veiw on them, I'd really appreciate it.
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Posted By AJM
We have them and have 2 people on days and 2 people on nights trained up. But 1 thing to remember is this has to be updated with a refresher every 6 months.
The best way to decide if you require one is through your assessment of first aid needs which with our factory being 13 miles from nearest hospital was the main reason for doing so. But there is other things to consider in your assessment like the hazard profile of your company or average age of employees. There are other issues obviously but the assessment of first aid needs is the key top it all.
There are two other sources of good information are http://www.firstaidcafe.co.uk/ for specific first aid associated questions. Also the HSE guidance will help you too http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg214.pdf.
Alan
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Posted By Len Newman
We have had one for 4 years and have used it once in which we save an empoyees life. We have refresher & test once a year from St Johns. We also have the training C.D. on the rounds.
When we started we only had 6 trained but from November we will have 12 operaters.
We are a County Council and have been asked if we could help cover other buildings adjacent. It was desided not to because of the time delay.
Hope this helps any more information please contact me.
Len Newman
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Posted By Karen1
Thanks for your responses. What swayed your decision to get one in council buildings? Was it because you have contact with the public? I work for a company where we have members of the public coming in as well as private offices. What I'd like to know is, if there is a difference in attitude to getting in defibrilators between organisations like mine who have contact with the public, and those that don't?
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Posted By jackdaw
We decided not to have defibrilators at our site - we also took into account location to hospital, age of workforce, etc.
We don't have members of the public coming onto site so that was not considered. If we did then it certainly would have been taken into account.
I think it would depend on who was coming onto site - is it an organisation where elderly people visit, or are they generally younger, or is there a mixture. How many and how often could also be a factor.
I suppose the point is that you know the age, and to a certain extent the fitness level of your workforce, but you don't know much about the public coming onto site.
I think another thing to take into account is that you must have people willing to use them. The usual first aid at work training obviously doesn't include the use of defibrilators and some people may be reluctant to use them - afraid of the unknown I suppose.
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Posted By Sean Fraser
Defibs these days are eegit proof - if you have a significant risk factor in your workplace then they will probably be required at some point and they will have a positive effect on the chain of survival.
However, they are relatively expensive and not just in capital cost but also time in training, checking and recharging. Then there are the arguments of accessibility, how often to refresh training, what happens if it all goes wrong (it can't, but the compensation myth has a life of it's own) and so on.
For a low risk environment (younger workforce profile, active workplace so fitness levels are higher in proportion, no interaction with general public, close proximity to emergency services) then a defib is probably not necessary as the potential for experiencing a cardiac arrest is unlikely. For high risk (older profile, sedantary working &/or significant interaction with general public, significant distance from emergency services) then there is an increased chance of experiencing one or more arrests on the premises and a defib can make all the difference in saving a life.
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Posted By Sheila EJ Keogh
at a previous workplace, a private organisation, we had a defibrillator and trained users on all 12 floors. Defib kept with Security, who could access any part of the building in about 3 minutes (could use top-dog's lift, etc). As the organisation was in city of london, a 3 minute delay in getting the defib from ground floor security to the injured person was of course hugely better than waiting for 10, 15, 20 etc minutes for an ambulance to fight its way across London. So saying, we needed it (defib) once, and a policeman on a motorbike turned up within only a few minutes, not long after the in-house defib arrived with the IP.
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Posted By Bob Thompson CMIOSH
had them for a couple of years exellent Idea if properly managed
Bob
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