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Posted By Roger Bragg
Our engineers have been asked to work in a secure unit for violent offenders and naturally have valid health & safety concerns. The secure unit is part of an NHS Trust. Does the NHS have a duty of care while our engineers are on site? We have asked for wards to be shut down when our engineers are on site however this has met with resistance. What additional measures can we take to reassure our engineers that they will not be subject to unnecessary risk?
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Posted By Martin Keeler
Yes the NHS has a duty of care toward your engineers. I would also prohibit lone working.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
You should be escorted at all times by a member of staff!
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Posted By Bill Elliott
You should communicate direct with the manager of the unit. You will no doubt find they are well used to contractors and others working in their premises and will have appropriate plans in place to accomodate them. You don't say what sort of activity it is you are involved in - does this have a bearing?
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Posted By Roger Bragg
Thanks Bill
The engineers are installing attack alarms and radio base stations throughout the wards. The system is activated via cordless telephones and the main telephone switch. They are using handtools and cordless drills and screwdrivers. They require access to all floors and roofspaces.
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Posted By Bill Elliott
Roger - this sounds a bit Catch 22 - there should be a system in place to protect both staff and visitors, but it seems that this may not be felt to be adequate hence your involvement to install another system. None the less there may be some fairly stringent requirements imposed on your workers to allow the work to proceed in safety including being accountable for all tools (potential weapons) at all times. It seems to me that a meeting with the involved persons including the manager of the unit is essential to be able to progress.
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Posted By rjhills
Risk assessment, method statements, and permit to work procedures come immediately to mind.
Has the NHS safety/risk manager asked to see any of the above? Or discussed lone working or dangers from needlestick injuries etc??
Security should form part of the risk assessment if you are to ensure a safe place of work.
Also, worth noting is the fact that if you send your paperwork to the NHS manager concerned explaining his/her responsibilities for your staff, unless you make it plain what you expect from them to protect your staff, in writing, you may have problems if the worst happens.
Although it probably wont.
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