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#1 Posted : 21 July 2006 11:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert S Woods Can anyone supply details of legislation or guidance on duties to follow best practise.
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#2 Posted : 21 July 2006 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Robert, It falls out of concepts such as ALARP or SFARP, as quoted in this example http://www.iee.org/polic...health/hsb17.pdf#search='reasonably%20practicable' John
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#3 Posted : 24 July 2006 13:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By CRT There is no duty to follow COP`s, have a read of the first page in any ACOP, which says just that, however beware of the "double-edged sword".
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#4 Posted : 24 July 2006 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight While CRT is right, read s17 of the Act before deciding to ignore an ACOP. There is no legal duty to follow best practice (of which ACOPs are a part), but as I stated above, its hard to determine reasonable practicability without reagrd to best practice, John
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#5 Posted : 24 July 2006 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Patrick Teyhan Hi, as far as I am aware prosecutions are more sucessful when the "within current knowledge or invention" ace is played. This implies that if someone is injured, and if the investigation finds that ACOP and Guidance Notes are not followed then a sucessful prosecution could ensue on the grounds of not following best (or industry) practise by not implementing a system or procedure in place that is within current knowledge or invention if reasonably practicable to do so. This negates budget constraints. Another pitfall from the H&S managers perspective is that if under cross examination you are asked about foreseeability. Regards Patrick
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#6 Posted : 24 July 2006 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh Perhaps you should turn it around and be able to justify why you DIDN'T follow best practice in a particular instance. I would suggest that your defences would have to be either - not practicable to - your system was as good as BP - your system was better
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#7 Posted : 24 July 2006 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney One would be required to demonstrate that the alternative method/procedure to any recognized ACOP/Guide was equally efficient to the ACOP/Guide; it therefore tends to make sense to adhere to the official codes/guides as opposed to alternatives. I am certain that there must be good quality alternatives that would satisfy a court of law, I can't however refer to any as I am of the old fashioned type who sticks to ACOP's and HS(G)'s, which I would consider to be best practice. As far as legislation is concerned this is statute and one would be automatically achieving best practice by adhering to the law of the specific country it stemmed from. I suppose that OHSAS 18001, BS 8800 linked to ISO 9001 and 14001 would be an alternative to non legislative best practice? CFT
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#8 Posted : 25 July 2006 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Bennett Robert, Just finished perusing the Corporate Mannslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill - Section 9 (see 3 a,b & sec 5)Factors for the jury states :- Factors for jury (1) This section applies where— (a) it is established that an organisation owed a relevant duty of care to a person, and (b) it falls to the jury to decide whether there was a gross breach of that duty. (2) The jury must consider whether the evidence shows that the organisation failed to comply with any health and safety legislation that relates to the alleged breach, and if so— (a) how serious that failure was; (b) how much of a risk of death it posed. (3) The jury may also— (a) consider the extent to which the evidence shows that there were attitudes, policies, systems or accepted practices within the organisation that were likely to have encouraged any such failure as is mentioned in subsection (2), or to have produced tolerance of it; (b) have regard to any health and safety guidance that relates to the alleged breach. 4) This section does not prevent the jury from having regard to any other matters they consider relevant. (5) In this section— “health and safety legislation” means any statutory provision dealing with health and safety matters, including in particular provision contained in the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 (c. 37) or the Health and Safety at Work (Northern Ireland) Order 1978 (S.I. 1978/1039 (N.I. 9)); “health and safety guidance” means any code, guidance, manual or similar publication that is concerned with health and safety matters and is made or issued (under a statutory provision or otherwise) by an authority responsible for the enforcement of any health and safety legislation; “statutory provision” means provision contained in, or in an instrument made under, any Act, any Act of the Scottish Parliament or any Northern Ireland legislation. Regards, John
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