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Posted By Amanda
just wondering about anyone elses experiences using accident record books other than the HSE one? Without having to spend a load of money on other variants we are looking for an accident record book that doesn't have (or phrases differently) the question in section 3 of BI510 which says 'say how the accident happened. Give the cause if you can'. In particular the 'give the cause if you can' bit. We have a number of fillers in of the accident record who 'give the cause' even where they strictly can't (because they don't know) 'give the cause'.
Okay yes, training and information and greater control of the accident book will all help but if there is a different accident book out there ... without this phrase that would help immensely, or are they, as I suspect all derived from BI 510?
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Posted By MARK M
Amanda if you send your email address I shall forward you a copy of the form we use as it only needs certain criteria for the work and pension dept.
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Posted By DYNAMO
I have been confused about this maybe someone can clarify.
The old yeller accident book and the new data protection variant.
If it is a social security requirement and I retain the same info in an electronic format is that good enough.
Or
Does it have to be on these government printed books.
Logically I have told myself that info is info it doesn't matter the format but a few people who have been in the game longer than me have looked at me as though I have horns when I say no don't use em.
Jeff Watt
The Flat Earth Society.
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Posted By Calum Clark
We use our own accident books which give the info we need (BI 510 is not detailed enough for us by any means ad leaves too much scope for ambiguity). The information is quickly transcribed by me from our form to the BI 510 accident book although not as detailed. It sounds like doubling up on the work but I get what I need and the DWP gets what it needs and all our staff know which form to fill in.
Calum
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Posted By DYNAMO
Calum
I did that for years then I convinced myself it was a waste of time. The only time the DHSS contacted me was when an employee went off sick pay and started to claim benefits, a very rare occurence, twice in my experience.
Like I said before. Am I missing something here?
Jeff
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
Off another website (http://www.workplacelaw.net/forum/thread.php?thread_id=1281)
I agree with Bill that to make up your own version of the accident book is both costly and fraught with risks on non-compliance with various Laws, notably the DPA, RIDDOR and the requirements of the Department of Works and Pensions. Another way of recording accidents is to use electronic records. However, any electronic recording system must be approved. To get approval you need to submit the system to:
Mr Ian McIntyre
Industrial Injuries Unit
2S 25 Quay House
Leeds
L52 7UB
It can also be submitted by email addressed to ian.mcintyre@jobcantreplus.gsi.gov.uk.
A copy of the report pages must be attached. The DWP authorisation to hold the Accident Book on computer must then be held in the Health and Safety Files for production to HSE or the Local Authority on request.
Access controls must meet the DPA.
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