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#1 Posted : 25 July 2006 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM This is an issue I think must be a problem at other factories, hopefully I can get this delicate matter over in the correct manner so as not to offend anyone and get some sensible replies. Obviously in these days we are a multi cultural society with all religions and nationalities working together, this I have no issue with. But where I work we seem to have a major issue with use of the sanitary facilities and different cultures. Some cultures have a certain way of using these facilities (i.e. standing on the seat) that leaves them in what can only be described as a disgraceful condition. This obviously causes a major health hazard that everyone complains to the health and safety department about. I guess what I am asking how has other people dealt with this matter in such a way as not to cause offence to these cultures who have there own unique way of using these facilities. Thanks in advance Alan
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#2 Posted : 25 July 2006 12:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roberts Alan, We solved the problem by making paper toilet seat covers available and insisting on them being used by everyone. This did not offend anyone's religious beliefs and stopped the dirty seat syndrome. Type "paper toilet seat covers" into google for a list of regards Philsuppliers
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#3 Posted : 25 July 2006 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roberts Don't know how suppliers got down on that line, it did'nt look like that on preview
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#4 Posted : 25 July 2006 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Bish The paper cover would not stop anyone from standing on the seat, but would increase the risk they may slip and fall. Could make for an interesting accident at work report?
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#5 Posted : 25 July 2006 14:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard Just got back from a Holiday in France and many of the public toilets are the “squatting” type. Would it be practicable to change some of your cubicles to this style? Then people have a choice. Brian.
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#6 Posted : 25 July 2006 14:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs I used to work in a large factory where both types were readily available (Birmingham) but the place was huge - if you do not have space enough to do that, perhaps there is a way of building a platform either side of the pan to accommodate that style of use with the toilet seat up? It would reduce the slip risks if they were properly made (no need for the platforms to be ceramic or plastic). Just a thought.
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#7 Posted : 25 July 2006 14:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM Thanks for the replies, my main concern was if you made an individual type of toilet for a set type of use or religion you are segregating couldnt that be construed as discrimination. Its difficult to see where the line between safety and discrimination is these days. Although you would have to argue surely its health and safety first. Who knows how we would stand in these days of a legal minefield. Thanks for replies so far anyway Alan
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#8 Posted : 25 July 2006 14:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh When doing the employment law part of a recent management course, I was told that Safety laws trump others. Hence, if you have a genuine H&S case for doing something, don't worry too much about employment legislation eg on discrimination.
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#9 Posted : 25 July 2006 16:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard Have you tried speaking to anyone in the workplace? You may find that the different toilets suggested would be preferred by some individuals as they conform better to their hygiene standards than the standard British type. Surly then you would not be discriminating but would be a good employer showing an understanding of their religious or cultural needs. Brian
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#10 Posted : 25 July 2006 17:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richie H Hi, working in Saudi arabia i have a good understanding of your issue. Our only resolution is to provide different type toilets, i.e. the squating type. This is not discrimination and you may well find that this type are prefferred by those religions who use ablutions this way - more comfortable to them and take away the obvious risks too.... everyone is happy.... ?
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