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Posted By chrissie
I am carrying out some training for an airline. The problem they have is that although hearing protection is compulsory during an aircraft turnaround the engineers are not wearing it. The engineers feel that the 'loss of one of their senses' so to speak puts them at a much higher risk than hearing loss. They are exposed to many risks during an aeroplane turnaround - mainly moving vehicles. They feel that if they wear their hearing protection they will not hear vehicles comiung etc. It also creates problems if they need to be contacted in an emergency as they can't hear their mobile phones. One chap stated 'I would much prefer to loose my hearing than be hit by a baggage truck'
Has anyone any suggestions or had experience with this and how can we enforce this?.
Much appreciated in advance
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Posted By lewes
By the sounds of it the hearing protection may not be suitable for the work environment. It may be best to re-evaluate the current hearing protection you provide and reselect.
Over protection can often be worse than no protection at all.
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Posted By Robert S Woods
Do a thorough risk assesment. Fit the trucks with revesing sirens and make sure that the drivers are properly trained.
If they don't wear their hearing protection they won't be able to hear the trucks in a few years anyway. Then they'll stick a claim in for noise induced deafness, and you'll be able to sack them on capability grounds (they admit they can't do their job unless they can hear),unless you can find them alternative work.
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Posted By lewes
Ooops, forgot to add.
My father has very bad hearing loss and cant hear anything over 500hz which is very low. He is currently waiting for a Cochlea operation.
He cant hear the doorbell, struggles with the telephone and cant hear his grandchildren too good either.
Over protection can often lead to people not hearing warning sirens, vehicles etc I have a similar problem with people working roadside on broken down vehicles.
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Posted By tommy_t
Look is people and vehicles can be segragated, and if they can implement the system.
To enforce wearing - verbal warning; written warning; final written warning; dismissal.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Used to work for a well know airline, the favourite one and hearing Protection is mandatory at all UK airports, tell the Airport Authority and they should enforce.
The Ramp area is a designated 'Noise' area and these people would be no good as Aircraft engineers if they were deaf! Flight deck / CC and CS should also wear these if they have to access the Ramp Area.
CAP 642 and the HSE Safety During Aircraft Turnarounds are the books
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Posted By JayJay
Hi Chrissie !
Is it possible for these people to have an area that is barriered off and warning signs posted to protect them, well at least on 3 sides if the aircraft is facing them ?
JJ
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Posted By GJB
Interesting post!
The headline on the front page of SHP this month includes the words 'more than one way to skin a cat'!
We wonder why we get such a bad name in H & S (Also see the Mail today- Re; Fire station poles) and yet we arrogantly and pompously go around 'demanding' that people wear ear protection... cos it's the law and the 'Risk Assessment Bible' says we have to!
Ever heard about explaining the benefits? I can quite understand the resistance to wearing them when the operatives are likely to get struck my vehicles, etc, so as one of the posts above says, train drivers too, look for other ways to reduce noise or look for ear protection that does the job, etc. But as soon as you start demanding, waving HSWA74 documents at them or bashing them with a clip-board, then what type of reaction do you really expect?
I like the word diplomacy! A definition?
Diplomacy: The ability to tell a person to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip!
Maybe others should consider it too?
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Posted By AJM
Obvioulsy as always you have to try and take the excuses away, as said above is it practical to seperate the pedestrian and the traffic if so do it to take that away.
On the second point we have those hearing protectors with a radio connection inside to hear any important info so no need for his phone.
Just a couple of ideas good luck
Alan
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
I believe that you can get hearing protection that is, effectively, headphones....they are standard head-muffs with speakers inside and sound provided by an amplitude limiting amplifier....
You may also mention that IF they are lucky they will go deaf....IF they are UNLUCKY they will have tinnitus....a constant sound all the time...either droning or whining of almost meodic chime-like sounds....all the time...as in ALL the time
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Select appropriate hearing protection! Use noise cancelling head- sets. These will cancel out the sounds of the jet engines but allow the engineer to converse and hear vehicles clearly.
Regards Adrian Watson
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