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#1 Posted : 16 August 2006 17:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By dbaird Can you advise? When we have a site and PUs workers want to come onto site to do unrelated tasks - how do other HS advisors / companies tackle this? That is Transco or Energy workers wander in and out to effect repairs, do works totally unrelated to the project. (They arent immune to being struck by dumper or excavator). There must be an official Transco / Energy take on this as there is a dual Duty of Care. Just interested in how others tackle this in practical terms, experiences appreciated. Thanks, David
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#2 Posted : 17 August 2006 07:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel If its your site [where you are the controller] its your rules [ provided they are legal] that any visitor etc has to obey - don't fool yourself into thinking that the situation is different - It also depens on managements bottle Irrespective of who it is [the HSE / EA etc] all conform to adequate site rules if not they are not allowed on site The police recently visited and I had to stop them as they were not demonstrating 'best practice'- they apologised, thanked me and conformed to best practice [our site rules]streight away [without any follow up!]
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#3 Posted : 17 August 2006 08:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By AlB The site rules not only need to be legal, but must also make sense, be practicable and should take into consideration any unusual visitor, such as the HSE. Remember that the HSE and the police have powers of entry, and if you refuse them entry they CAN take action against you. As for tyhe utilities services, regardless of who they are, they are still working on your site. You must provide them with information about site hazards, key risks and other relevant information, and you must be satisfied that their work practices are legal, safe and in unison with your activities. AlB
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#4 Posted : 17 August 2006 10:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Orla Herley hi there, i agree with the above and while no-one, I'm sure is suggesting refusing access to HSE/Police etc, while working on a recent road job, we informed all concerned that they had to go through our site induction before setting foot on site. All had to make their presence known at reception. The job itself was an improvement scheme on a road that had not been modified for about 40 years so all the utility companies were involved, as well as police (speed camera checks), various archeologists and environmental people and our own staff and operatives. So as a matter of course everyone BT, Transco, Electric company, plant hire companies, crane drivers, were sat down and advised of any relevant dangers ie ranging from overhead power lines, asbestos, excavations, plant movement, bats (rabies and TB), rats (leptospirosis), other protected native plant and animal life,emergency procedures, the list goes on.Copies of all relevant certifications ie CPCS, CSCS etc were requested. If the particular individual returned to site ,but say, 6 months later, they were given an update. It seemed to work well as it was done in such a way requesting everone's co-operation. By covering everything in about 20 mins (and by stating that most inductions sound the same but all constructions sites most definately are NOT)everone was happy enough. Not sure if this helps
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#5 Posted : 17 August 2006 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Dickson David, All persons entering your site should be subject to the controls you are required to exercise. You have a responsibility for their safety and can quite correctly refuse access to anyone not prepared to comply with your entry requirements. Over and above this, you must consider a right of entry. This would only apply in very few cases. I believe Transco fall into this category. I'm uncertain how the right of entry affects liability. Ken
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#6 Posted : 17 August 2006 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By RA Hi David, We had the same problem- I telephoned and wrote to their regional and managing- they sorted it out there and then. They also assured me that if were to occur again- to telephone and they would come out to sort it out personally. RA
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#7 Posted : 17 August 2006 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel Right of Entry: Does exist and thankfully so: Not used enough in my opinion However the ROE still requires compliance to the appropriate laws by those undertaking the ROE procedure
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#8 Posted : 17 August 2006 11:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ciaran McAleenan David, The following protocol was developed for use in the road construction industry in NI. The scenario it addresses is similar to that which you have described. Feel free to use any aspect of the protocol if it helps. Best wishes Ciaran RELATIONSHIPS PROTOCOL The Construction Design and Management Regulations require co-operation and co-ordination between all parties involved in the design and delivery of construction work. Compliance with this best practice Guidance Note will promote effective co-ordination and co-operation between Clients, Principal Contractors, Contractors, Utility Companies and their Sub-Contractors. The objective of all the interested parties is to ensure the health, safety and welfare of road workers and road users. The following actions are necessary to further this aim and to establish and maintain a good working relationship between all parties. Action 1 Advance notification of proposed utility works, that are to be done by any utility and/or their contractor during the Project, is to be provided to the Principal Contractor before work commences. Liaison arrangements for these works are to be agreed at this stage. Responsibility: Client and Utility Company Action 2 The Principal Contractor is to be provided with a list detailing any nominated utility sub-contractors, seeking access to the site. The listing is to include; nature and scope of work, contact names, telephone numbers and level(s) of responsibility. Responsibility: Client and Utility Company Action 3 The utility company is to provide relevant risk assessments, method statements and the name of their safety advisor to the Principal Contractor before work can commence. Responsibility: Utility Company and Principal Contractor Action 4 The utility company and/or their sub-contractors are to discuss and agree with the Principal Contractor any necessary accommodation works to facilitate storage of their plant and materials on site. Responsibility: Utility Company and Principal Contractor Action 5 The Principal Contractor is to facilitate briefing meeting(s) with all interested parties, if necessary, in order that relevant information and program of works can be communicated and agreed prior to work starting on site. Responsibility: Principal Contractor Action 6 Any changes to works, details of delays or extensions to the utility works, which may affect the overall program, is to be notified to the Principal Contractor at the earliest opportunity. Responsibility: Utility Company and Client The sharing of information, clarity and co-operation will ensure that all parties involved are aware of their responsibilities. Adherence to the above procedures will enhance relationships and facilitate the safe and efficient carrying out of work.
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