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Posted By AJM
Hi fellow safety Guru's
I have an issues which I am sure must of been a problem to others, this is especially pertinent with the new work at height regulations.
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We have a building which is over 80 years old. most of our guttering runs along the width of our building and is concaved and runs about 80 metres as opposed to down sides of building. The roof in some areas is obviously not in a good condition.
Firstly has anyone else encountered this issue and what measures did you take.
Secondly does anyone have any contacts or ideas of professional industrial companies that can take this sort of work on. Obviously I am trying to steer the company away from any back street odd jobbers as this is a route to disaster for such a job.
Thanks in advance.
Alan
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Posted By Ken Dickson
Alan,
How high is the guttering, are there any obstructions at ground level to restrict access, and is ground level in a public area (pavement or similar)? Also what is the general condition of the guttering and is overflow from it presently a problem?
Ken
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Posted By AJM
Ken,
Gutter is about 4 metres from floor level which as I say runs about 80 metres to the other side of the building then 4 metres again at back, there is about 10 lengths of guttering like this across the building.
It is ok access from one side as it is next to the street but rear access is not so good lots of stock etc.
Yes the guttering is quite poor and yes it is overflowing, not being helped obviously by the current heavy rainfalls we seem to have these days.
Alan
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
AJM
I have wondered for a few years why we bother with gutters.
Thatched houses never had gutters, neither did traditional low houses with slate roofs.
U channel drains can be sunk in the ground under the eaves and direct rain water to drain, seen this used in a house deigned for a wheelchair user so they could self maintain without calling out anyone. Seems logical.
Jeff
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Posted By Ken Dickson
Alan,
Sounds like a simple problem, but a nasty one to solve.
Get prices (including risk assessments and method statements) from a few reputable companies. Access from the public area will be a problem for public safety, and you'll obviously need to move the stock at the rear. It may be worth getting prices for replacing the guttering and other rainwater goods rather than cleaning, assuming it's not some kind of listed building.
Obvoiusly the biggest headache is access. Ladders is out on this one, from what you have said. A tower scaffold or, for non-public areas, a MEWP will probably be the best options. Whichever it is, the cost of guttering will be a minimal part of the total. A competent contractor should be able to make the best proposal for safety vs cost.
Sorry can't be more help.
Ken
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Posted By steve trafford
try looking sat a national company called total gutter maintenance based in North Yokshire who cover the whole of the uk. They have their own fleet of vehicle mounted mobile working platforms and specialise in all industrial sites including working for the MOD. I was previously their safety guy and they have a good set up. They have their own web site.
Regards
Steve Trafford (cmiosh)
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Posted By AJM
Thanks everyone for your constructive input.
A special thanks to Mr Trafford, I have personally checked out your advice and Mr Blair says to pass on his regards.
Alan
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