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Posted By halesowen Baggie
Good Morning Folks,
Maintenance want to cut a door into a partition that is asbestos cement.
I know that a licence is not required and that the CAWR are applicable.
Do i have to notify the HSE of the work being done?
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Posted By halesowen Baggie
I seem to remember a stipulation that you have to notify if the work is being done for the first time. (Maybe wrong, the H&S manager from another plant has stolen my disks with everything on)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
NO - work with asbestos Cement does not fall under the notification rule, however it should be done in accoradnce with HSE Books L27 & HSG 210
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Posted By Martin Keeler
Might be worth asking your insurance company!!
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Posted By ken mosley
Please be careful! Whilst removing asbestos cement is unlicensed work (see reg 3.2), it is only unlicensed work if the asbestos fibres are firmly linked in the asbestos cement matrix. Once you cut or abrade asbestos cement sheets you run the risk of fibres being released and becoming airbourne.Depending upon compliance with 3(2)(b) ie.It is clear from the risk assessment that the control limit will not be exceeded, then it will be unlicensed work. Dismantling sheets by unscrewing the bolts that hold sheets together would be unlicensed work, cutting out a door opening in asbestos/cement may be a different kettle of fish.
Ken
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Posted By Chris Pope
Asbestos Essentials Task Guide is the place to look for what to do, published by HSE books.
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Dear Ken,
With the greatest of respect, you're absolutely wrong! All work with asbestos must be done in accordance with the Control of Asbestos at Work Regulations 2002. In addition work with asbestos coating, asbestos insulation and asbestos insulation board has to be done in accordance with the asbestos licensing regulations 1983.
Regards Adrian Watson
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Posted By steven bentham
(1) double check it is asbestos cement and not asbestos insulation board;
(2) work with cement does not require a licensed contractor and is workable with low level of controls (AIB much more difficult)
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Posted By Bruce Sutherland
quick guide to identifying AC - you can obivously get positive id through a UKAS lab - hard and grey (may be painted tho) with a press pattern on the back and there is no way you can stick a drawing pin in it at all. AIB you can stick a drawing pin in ... not that you would want to and there is a whole saga on the merits or otherwise of that
If you want it analysed please do email
Bruce
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Posted By MarkJAWatkins
Best way to tell if it is AC or AIB is a density test. In Scotland, many HSE inspectors do not accept a surveyors experience as enough or lab analysis as enough evidence.
Not many UKAS labs carry out this but I know of one in Scotland, if that is where you are. The density test is not UKAS accredited but they are changing the testing method in October to a test that is UKAS accredited.
Densities are Mill board 0 - 500 kg/m3, AIB >500 kg/m3 - 1000 kg/m3.
Mill board and AIB are required to be worked upon by a licensed contractor Asbestos Cement is not.
As pointed out in previous postings, Asbestos Essential Task Manual HSG210 gives a guide to dealing with many situations and informs what PPE, RPE and training are required.
You do not have to be licensed, but as previous statements on postings say CAWR2002 and whatever waste regs (England/Scotland) are applicable.
I would suggest that as a minimum any persons employed who will carry out the works (and only AC works or other non-notifiable products) should "AT LEAST" have asbestos awareness training.
Regards,
Mark
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Posted By Ron Hunter
I urge you to find a different way to achieve the required door opening.It would be preferable and much, much safer to remove entire panels of asbestos cement (taking all due care to avoid breaking them) sufficient to allow for the creation of a doorway and alternative new panel surrounds. HSE will take a very dim view of anyone attacking an AC panel with a stihl saw, etc. Asbestos task manuals and other HSE guidance DO NOT cover this type of work, they do however cover removal of AC panels.
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Posted By Derrick Robinson
Just a practical tip.
As other people have commented you need to be removing complete sheets.
Assuming you have a standard 3" or 6" profile, which you probably will, then the modern none a/c fibre cement sheeting, which is widely available will match so you can remove full sheets and cut new none a/c to make good. Still needs to be cut with a toothed blade not an abrasive though.
Derrick
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