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#1 Posted : 22 August 2006 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By MeiP
Help, having a brain freeze at the moment. If we hire a cherry picker & driver, how much training does the bloke in the bucket need? It's a one off job, it'll be a couple of hours one morning & we're very unlikely to do it again, so... can he just stand in it? Or should we hire a second bloke for that?

Cheers

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#2 Posted : 22 August 2006 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.
Is the hired driver also a trained operator? I would expect so as he / she would be responsible for the stability of the vehicle before work.
Whatever work you are doing and if there is a second person, the SWL must be observed. Don't forget harnessess, traversing areas, OH obstacles etc etc. I don't think a super fast crash course in C/Picker operation is advisable, maybe trained but possibly not confident nor competent.
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#3 Posted : 22 August 2006 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham
if he's not operating it what training would he need. If there is another competent person avaliable he can reveive instruction from them regarding do's and don't
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#4 Posted : 22 August 2006 12:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By David MacFarlane
MeiP,

I agree with gham, there is no need for training for the the operative in the bucket. However, I would suggest a toolbox talk held by the competent person (MEWP trained) this will allow those who are involved with the task to discuss the job openly prior to commencing.

David.
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#5 Posted : 22 August 2006 16:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
Surely the guy in the bucket needs harness etc training...........and also in the rules for working (eg not leaning out or getting out at height etc).

In my experience some sort of training, Risk Asessment etc is surely required, but not full Cherry Picker operating training.
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#6 Posted : 22 August 2006 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By warderic
Training is required regardless of the work involved. The level of training depends on the work and the risks involved. The work in the bucket will need to be assessed and the relevant training given. This needn't be an endless paperwork exercise. The answer to your question is Yes he will need training and Yes a risk assessment will need to be carried out for this one off job. Should you not do this and a seriouse accident happens the first thing the HSE will ask for is evidence of training and a risk assesment for working at heights etc.
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#7 Posted : 22 August 2006 16:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By MeiP
Hi all thanks for all your responses.

Training the guy with anything more than 'on the day' instructions won't be cost effective, and so it looks like we'll just have to hire someone else in to do it.
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#8 Posted : 22 August 2006 17:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Aidan Toner
Seem to recall that ALL persons(those in bucket and on ground) must be trained/know/be familar with the emergency lowering arrangements.ie in event of power failure.
Does the phrase safety harness not convey the wrong message is it not better to describe the kit as a lanyard???
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#9 Posted : 22 August 2006 22:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By JayJay

Sorry ! just to point out something the previous person mentioned. Safety harness and lanyard are 2 seperate bits of equipment. lanyard is attached to the safety harness. Sorry for being picky but had a c**p day HaHa
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