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#1 Posted : 29 August 2006 09:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap Am i right to insist that operatives who will be working on asbestos (as per asbestos essentials) after receiveing training, shouls be non smokers. My reasons are that, you are 50 times more likely to develop asbestos related diseases if you smoke compared to a non smoker. Am i being fair?
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#2 Posted : 29 August 2006 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald No
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#3 Posted : 29 August 2006 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap Why not?
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#4 Posted : 29 August 2006 12:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Because its not illegal to smoke! This is used to show the synergistic effect if you do both and the increased risk if you do!
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#5 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Please refer to posting "Smoking discrimination" further down this page for Brussels opinion! What is so wrong with trying to protect people who may be placed at increased risk? This is about more than statistics, the action of drawing smoke into the airways causes a temporary paralysis of the cilliary escalator, therefore seriously impairing the body's ability to defend itself from other contaminants - in this case asbestos fibres.
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#6 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Ron don't disagree in the slightest however if we 'blanket ban' smokers from working in the Asi industry where do we stop and draw the line! That said if you did there would not be very many Asbestos Removal companies out there
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#7 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Please refer to posting "Smoking discrimination" further down this page for Brussels opinion! What is so wrong with trying to protect people who may be placed at increased risk? This is about more than statistics, the action of drawing smoke into the airways causes a temporary paralysis of the cilliary escalator, therefore seriously impairing the body's ability to defend itself from other contaminants - in this case asbestos fibres.
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#8 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter sorry for posting twice - my PC hung up again!
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#9 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap Okay. So what a bout me trying to reduce the risk of exposure to danger to a level that is SFARP.
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#10 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By garry saunders I'm not sure that fair is the issue. If you are bothered about liability then why not place not smoking, while working, as a contractural requirement?
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#11 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilles27 Provided they are wearing properly fitting FFP3 (plus all other controls appropriate to the job)and are properly trained there should be no problem. I smoke and work with asy on occasion and know I am not at risk, because I know I am doing it right. They are only going to be at risk if they can breathe respirable fibres. I would say its okay, but of course re-inforce the risk to staff in the preamble. [as a smile, I always thought the facemasks with valves on the front were so you can have a fag as you go along???!!!]
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#12 Posted : 29 August 2006 13:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson The sad thing is some asbestos removal operatives still think that as well
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