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Posted By HilaryM
Is anyone willing to give an indication of where they are in complying with RRO by 1st October. I have to give a Board presentation and need to give an indication of how far we are aligned with other organisations, or how far we are adrift. So is everyone out there resting easily in their beds because every single RRO assessment is done, or is there still some way to go? This organisation has 153 different locations.
Thank you.
HilaryM
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Posted By Phillipe
Are you a retailer?
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Posted By HilaryM
You guessed it.
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Posted By Phillipe
drop me an email
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Posted By HilaryM
Thanks. Address?
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Posted By Phillipe
click on name
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Posted By Steven
Neither of you have your e-mail availible - update your details to allow e-mail to be seen.
steve
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Posted By Phillipe
I did update my details for a short while in the hope Hilary noted it. Then I changed them again. Back on now.
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Posted By Steven
Sorry Phillipe - my apologies
Steve
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Posted By Phillipe
No worries Steve, have a nice day !
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
I understand you wish to gauge your position against others. I must say this is something of a weak approach. There is and can be no hiding from the fact that because others have failed to make suitable progress will not result in your failure being lokked upon as any sort of excuse. I have three office based locations in mixed occupancy buildings and the landlords are somewhat slow in getting thinks done. This said i am ready to go to print with my fire risk assessments and have been working toward the October deadline for some months. So I am not waiting for others to act. I advise you get on with the job, its not that difficult if you use a systematic approach and tap into existing information. There has been no significant change really.
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Posted By HilaryM
Thank you for your interesting and considered view. This safety dept of 2 have worked out it will take 306 days to risk assess 153 locations - as of now. That's without the day to day activities that keep us smiling. The company shoould have been alerted to this a year ago as we know; but life isn't perfect; I'm on temporary assignment here, and I've been asked for the presentation. Would like you to be wishing us luck!
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Posted By Is Kismet
Purely out of interest Bob, why have you not just answered the initial question, or indeed why have you answered at all.
I find it quite offputting that simple questions are met with criticism without people knowing all the facts.
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Hilary,
In case you haven't seen it there is free sector guidance to accompany the RRO on the www.communities.gov website; the specific link for the retail guide is http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1162103 which gives you a choice of downloading the whole lot in one document or in two parts. (or you can pay £12 for a hard copy, which considering the cost of toner isn't that pricey)
We have 400 charity shops, but for once we are ahead of the game on this one and should have all our shops done before the RRO hits the streets,
John
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Posted By J Knight
PS: Our shops are almost all very small, two rooms on one floor, so it has been quite easy for us. The bigger premises need considerably more work and if you're talking about multi-floor high-street type shops it will take you longer.
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Posted By Ashley Wood
You are not alone with not meeting the dead line. we have only just completed 272 fire risk assessments of high street restaurants for a client and this takes a lot of resource. There will be many thousands of business's in breach on October 1st. I am reliably informed that the enforcing authorities will be calling on 'high life safety risks' first, so you may have a few months grace! I would be pleased to help ashley@thermatech.uk.com
If you do these assessments yourselves, good luck!
All the best
Ashley
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Posted By Joe Doc
Hilary,
Have you considered creating a basic self-assessment 'checklist' and issuing that to your local people with some basic completion guidance (note, dont call it a fire risk assessment as that will scare them).
They could then submit that to you and consequently create a list of your properties were you prioritise the needs for your professional assessment.
It would also create and instil a bit of ownership on those locally responsible for management.
I would have suggest that this document could easily be produced by slightly ammending your FRA.
We currently operate such a two tier system and it works well.
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Posted By Harold Gbinije
i just did a presentation also on that and was able. main point is having a fire safety policy, with someone at board level being the repsonsible person for fire safety for the whole organisation appointing competent persons for each site to ensure that all requirements of RRO is being met like fire risk assessment, emergency procedure if you can get the guidance note as it relates to your industry from the office of deputy prrime minister website (i know its change now to local govt and communities) it will help loads I do have an e-copy can email if I have your addy.
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Posted By Jim Walker
I can't understand how people have left this until the last minute.
Its some time since I was responsible for Fire issues in a company but this was all being flagged up at least five years ago. They were saying then that Fire Certs would be phased out and the job transfered to the occupier. I certainly did Fire risk assessments for 3 factories in my last job and I've been in my present one over three years.
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Posted By Dave Skipsey
Hi Hillary
Our organisation has 390 properties with communal parts, have identified responsibilities am in the process of scoping training providers to train "responsible " personsin fire risk assessment to include practicle assessment of our properties. Also considering bringing in a consultant to carry out initial assessments, if there are training providers viewing this thread feel free to contact me direct.
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Posted By Phillipe
Jim
With respect, Hilary has stated that she has been appointed in a temporary position and as a result is picking up the issue that possibly someone failed to do before her time.
Your point regarding the assessments is valid though, it is not a new requirement and for most it may be a simple case of revisiting the previous assessment, update it if required, change the details to RRO 2005 and that is all.
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Posted By Ashley Wood
I am not having a dig here, but its known as the RR(FS)O. There are hundreds of RRO's so the FS (Fire Safety) is important.
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Posted By Crim
Hilary, and others,
I'm not sure that there is a problem if you have not caught up yet, as long as you are seen to be doing all you can to comply, however if you do need to speed things up there are lots of self employed consultants out there who would be happy to help.
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Posted By HilaryM
Thank you, all of you, who have provided reassurance and practical help and guidance. Yes, we've downloaded the information from the government website. Thanks again Philippe for your instant, unquestioning, and detailed help. Be assured that if and when we need a consultant to help I shall go straight to this forum. Since posting the thread, I have got a clear picture of where we are relative to other retailers; we have an action plan in place, and have got the buy-in of the whole organisation. This is a major achievement, and I couldn't have done it without you. HilaryM
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