Posted By Simon Zeigler We provide uniforms for the driving staff there is a place to change and lockers, thee is a toilet and hand basin, the sink is blocked and the power to the light and water heater is off. I am saying that it is not a place of work but merely a place to pick up the vans. How do we stand?

Posted By Simon Zeigler My employer has no morals, sadly, and the regs do not seem clear.

Posted By Tony Brunskill Workplace regs are very clear.

Posted By John Murgatroyd Unblock the systems, get the hot water working and do it yourself !

Posted By Dave Wilson I now know why bthe probatrion service is crying out for qualified and experienced H&S managers, this is a Public Sector Employer and loke all big draconian public sector organsiation dragging them into the 20th century is a task.(not a mistake!). This is Very bad man management and communication skills and in my view is totally ubacceptable. Years ago did a demo on field hygiene to people going abroad and the importance of washing your hands after doing No 2's, used to put bog paper in hand and touch an ink pad the ink comes through and appears on your fingers. "So thats all the bacteria from your Poo now on your fingers!!!" and thats why you wash your hands after going to the heads! So front of vehicle is now grossly contaminated with faecal indicators and chance of GI infections because not suitable and sufficient hand washing facilities. NIIICE!!

Posted By Pugwash Is there a way of contacting the moderators outside normal working hours? The only e-mail address I can find is webteam@iosh.co.uk and I guess the "webteam" will be away for the weekend. Several of the posts on this thread breach the AUGs and I suggest that the whole thread should be removed ASAP. The forum is most definitely not the place for this sort of thing.

Posted By Ian P As a new person on these forums can somebody tell me which of the AUGs has been breached? No 3?

Posted By Simon Zeigler Is a workplace still a workplace under the regs if its main purpose is for storage?

Posted By J Knight Hi Folks, The supposed breach of the AUGs may be that people can be identified from the posts. The lock-up, although in my view a workplace, may not need hygiene facilities provided that staff have easy access to them elsewhere. Is the lock-up on a remote site or is it situated in close proximity to other premises where there are welfare facilities? John

Posted By Jim Walker Wake up Moderators!! Can you remove (by editing) the bit where simon indentifies an individual, but let the rest of the thread run?

Posted By Simon Zeigler The main problem I have is that the service was protected by crown immunity, having lost it they don't seem to know how to join the rest of the modern world.