Posted By J Knight Yes, surely CMIOSH replaced RSP altogether? John

Posted By Merv Newman Extra thought : you can be CMIOSH without being CSP. But to be CSP you must first be CMIOSH Like what I am Merv Newman CMIOSH, CSP, FRHS By the way, which comes first ? Does an "F" take precedence over a "C" ?

Posted By J Knight Don't think Chartered Safety Practitioner is to be used in that way Merv. And as to which comes first, I read on this forum that its to do with which body tales precedence, and this is to do with the age of the organisation, so IOSH comes before IEMA, and I would have thought that the Royal Horticultural Society would come before IOSH, unless you meant FRSH Merv, in which case I don't know, John

Posted By Advanced Safety Thought CMIOSH/CFIOSH was only to be used, although you are a Chartered Safety & Health Practitioner. Can't say i have ever come across CSP, although stand to be corrected. On another note, i dont understand why Sole practitioners cannot used the Chartered status in the company name, e.g. Joe Bloggs H & S Ltd - Chartered Safety & Health Practitioners. When i enquired about this, i was told it was strictly for individual names only. I can understand the concerns with multiple employees, but not sole practitionerss. This situation is permitted by RICS, and the CIOB have the facility to register the Company as Chartered. Is there any plans for IOSH to do this? Would be interested in others views.

Posted By Jamie Anthony, In the same article reference is made to ISO 18000 now unless I am mistaken there is no such ISO standard. I was under the impression it was OHSAS 18000. Jamie

Posted By Dave Wilson Got my IOSH leaflet regarding chartered status in front of me and there is no mention of the CSP bit at all, you can use the designation of 'Chartered Safety & Health Practitioner' after your name if you wish but dont think this has been given a TLA!

Posted By gham I know thats what you meant (:-O

Posted By Davelfc Jamie, Watch this space OHSAS 18001 will be an ISO within the next 8 weeks, this may be where the info is coming from? Regards Dave

Posted By Hazel Harvey Hi all, I'm back from leave and as this thread has come to the top again I'll add to it although I think Norman already clarified things. Since last November the term RSP is obsolete. As has been correctly pointed out this was indicated to members in their 'Profile' leaflet which accompanied the 'Chartered' certificate. However, it does take some time for these things to be fully understood and implemented so I expect we will continue to see RSP for a while yet! The correct designatory letters are CFIOSH or CMIOSH and both these categories can describe themselves as 'Chartered Safety and Health Practitioners' this is not contracted to CHSP or CSP. As far a a sole practitoner is concerned you can use this in your letter heading using the same protocol as a Chartered Accountant, this should only be if you actually use your name as your practice though. So Joe Smith, Chartered Safety and Health Practitioner would be OK whilst Advanced Safety Chartered Safety and Health Practitioners would not. The designation is for an individual person rather than a company.The reasoning for this is that all the pratitioners in a company may not be Chartered but there does appear to be blanket cover in the second case. However, this has not been fully tested and if someone would like to request clarification of this from the Professional Committee I'll be happy to take this forward. Please write to me formally about this and I'll take it through. The Graduate and Techncian Members designations are Grad IOSH and Tech IOSH respectively (no full stops). Affiliate Members are not permitted to use any post-nominals so there is NOT an AIOSH. It is normal protocol for business cards etc. is that letters from older bodies take precedence even if they appear to be of a higher level (i.e. Fellowship rather than Membership). In this way IOSH designation should always come before IIRSM designations as IOSH was formed about 30 years before IIRSM but CEng would always be in front of either. In the UK we would normally use UK designations before any overseas ones but outside the UK this is a matter of preference. The actual order of qualifications is not totally prescriptive and is often used incorrectly and is not a major issue. However, the use of designations to which you are not entitled is specified in the IOSH code of conduct and can result in a disciplinary action. We normally follow up any mis-use of IOSH designations. Hazel Harvey Director of Professional Affairs

Posted By Hazel Harvey AJ, Probably but it would be a difficult one to audit. Leave this with me and I will discuss it with the Professional Committee and get their view. This is still a bit new! Hazel Harvey Director of PA

Posted By Martyn Hendrie Presumably if the use of "chartered safety and health practitioners" is deemed to be permitted by a company, because all the "H&S professionals" in the organisation have chartered status, this could only apply to a "sole trader" or a partnership" An incorporated company is a seperate legal entity that cannot be chartered.