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#41 Posted : 13 September 2006 09:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham
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Good point.

Where i work i don't work amoungs other health and safety professionals, I work among normal people. No tweed, no leather elbow patches, no clipboards and they now use chunkey kit kats as straws
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#42 Posted : 13 September 2006 09:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne
Am trying to assimilate what has been said so forgive me if I haven't grasped the full situation or digress from the original question.

Are there two "preferences" for the content of this forum? One group insisting that there is no humour or chat as doing this does not comply with the Approved User Guidlelines and posters doing this should be warned by the moderators and one group saying there is nothing wrong with a little light chat and appropriate humour as this does not make us unprofessional?

Personnally I don't see what is wrong with a bit of light chat and humour. I have sat here in my office after banging my head against the wall at work (with no head protection), logged on, learnt something and laughed too and I have definitely laughed at some of the things written which has really cheered me up. I think without the light chat and the humour it would take something away from the forum.

I don't know if my opinion means much as I have only been on this forum for a month.

I will add that as I knew there were a great many safety professionals on here I was a bit apprehensive about posting anything but what eventually made me take the plunge were the funny answers and general comradery and support I witnessed.

I support what Jeffrey has said and reiterate once more that I think the moderators are doing a good job because I received an email from them telling me off for writing an inappropriate post, I said sorry, learnt from it and hopefully in the future I can contribute something useful.

Mark


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#43 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
I see we've steered off course from Renny's original post.I don't believe Renny was criticising the chat or humourous banter on this Forum - we should perhaps be showing the World that we are human and do have a sense of humour!This is the "OSH Chat Forum" and chat has a value, if only as a distraction from the daily grind and frustrations of working in the field of Occ. Health & Safety.
The issue as I read it was more about treating each other, & any genuine requests for help, with common decency, courtesy and respect, and at all times in a professional manner.My biggest fears are that (a) newbies are scared away from what should be a valuable resource, and (b) the Press pick up some of the less than professional stuff and have a field day with it.
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#44 Posted : 13 September 2006 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Midlake
Can someone just tell me what a "Troll" posting is?


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#45 Posted : 13 September 2006 16:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Is Kismet
Do a google. This one seems quite informative.

http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll.htm
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#46 Posted : 13 September 2006 17:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
In this context a "troll" is a person who posts a deliberately provocative problem hoping to trap helpfull readers into trying to offer serious advice on an imaginary scenario.

Merv
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#47 Posted : 13 September 2006 19:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Is Kismet
... and on this forum catches them by the 100s!!
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#48 Posted : 14 September 2006 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Diane Thomason
Agree completely with Ron Hunter.

Nothing wrong with chatting, and nothing wrong with having a "full and frank exchange of views"!

But people asking for help - especially the less experienced - do occasionally get some less than polite replies, or their thread becomes a slanging match. Surely this isn't right? Fair enough for the regulars to start a slanging match in a thread of their own of course!

As Ron says we don't want these to happen- (a) newbies are scared away from what should be a valuable resource, and (b) the Press pick up some of the less than professional stuff and have a field day with it.

On another thread a while back it was suggested that there could be one forum for "chat" and another for "information exchange", which sounded good to me but the idea didn't seem popular.
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#49 Posted : 15 September 2006 23:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Brunskill
Diane could not agree more.....se JCB Digger thread.

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#50 Posted : 17 September 2006 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By srd
Perhaps we need to keep the existing forum which is available to the general public 'chat' free, make it a place where newbies are not afraid to ask for help and advice without fear of being shot down in flames, and make it the respectable public face of IOSH and the safety and health profession.

In addition, perhaps we could then set up a 'members only' part of the forum where members can have Friday rants on every day of the week, make humerous and sarcastic postings in the full knowledge that as only 'insiders' will be viewing them they are less likely to be misconstrued by outsiders, and have 'lively' discussions on our views about IOSH and the safety and health profession, be they positive or negative.

Stephen.
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#51 Posted : 17 September 2006 11:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By srd
following on from post above....

or, make all existing forums 'members only, then set up a new section available to everyone where they can seek advice or help.

Stephen.
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#52 Posted : 17 September 2006 11:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Is Kismet
...and don't forget to ensure none of the members are journalists, or people with sneaky ulterior motives.....

You don't think some of us are getting the tiniest bit paranoid?
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#53 Posted : 17 September 2006 11:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By srd
Paranoid?, no, and 'members' would be current members of IOSH, if they are also journalists then so be it.

Stephen.
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#54 Posted : 17 September 2006 15:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Is Kismet
There is already a forum for IOSH members only, I don't see your point?
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#55 Posted : 17 September 2006 15:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By sagalout
Obviously something here that interests contributors. The most responses to a thread for some time! And there are others with a similar content floating around.

I have not changed my view that we would have better choice if there were two OPEN forums, one where we "worked" the other where we "chat". Like a lot of other memebers I rarely use the closed forum unless I wish to address internal or IOSH confidential matters that would be inappropriate in an open forum.

I do not care about the content, use of humour or all the other things that trouble others. I would just find it more comfortable to know whether I am in working enviroment or a chatty environment.

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