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#1 Posted : 13 September 2006 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Durkin Hi All, Noted some previous threads also that the new legislation(Child car seats) starts in only 5 days time(18th Sept)Hence,I looked to Which? for Best buy(safety)advice.They have issued a caution about using simple booster cushions,to comply with the new height requirement i.e.restraints for children up to 4ft 6ins.(135cms)They advocate Group 3 seats with wings to provide extra protection for head & chest in a side impact crash..Not for me to advertise but one company rated as a best buy(£40)costs not much more than a cushion @ £30.That seat also covers Group 2(hence about 3years to 12 years) Is this then a no brainer?? Regards,Paul
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#2 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian P My daughter's new seat which she is immensely pleased with because it is pink has wings if that means the plastic parts that stick out at either side. It was only £13.99 and was more expensive than the standard £9.99 ones because it has cup holders, still a helluva lot cheaper than £30 a cushion. For work we have had to buy well over a 100 of them which if they had been £30 a throw would have had the Board foaming at the mouth
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#3 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sheila EJ Keogh In my own opinion, the cost is almost irrelevant when your child's safety could be at risk. I also subscribed to Which? on a free trial basis just so I could check out the car seats considered best. Am amazed at the number of people who aren't prepared to spend £30-50 on their little demons.
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#4 Posted : 13 September 2006 14:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian P I didn't say I wouldn't have been prepared to spend £30 on the horror but that there is a suspicion of profiteering if other people can sell them so cheaply, but surely not.
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#5 Posted : 13 September 2006 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Durkin Thanks both, Re: Ian-Which? as you probably know are an independant consumer body who do NOT rely on commercial sponsorship,hence I tend to trust them.Their testng of Child car seats goes beyond current standards(side impact etc)There best buy CCS are NOT based on price but on SAFETY.You may have a good deal BUT ??? Shiela: Yes as stated cannot use price as a guide.Otherwise we would all have the cheapest car. Another Q? What would you use for small adults?(<4ft 6ins) Do we transfer best practice? Regards,Paul
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#6 Posted : 15 September 2006 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Durkin Hi All, In part to answer my own 2nd Q: South Yorks Police this morning on BBC stated that small adults would not be prosecuted for not using booster seats etc.Reason their bone structure(unlike children's) would withstand the type of crashes this type of protection affords:'Yes hope they can stand up to it !! Another Q: Now that we are ready for Monday,with our new BOOSTER seats !!If we loan them out to others like we have to do for our voluntary drivers,when they are loaned out again,how can we be SURE these seats have NOT been involved in a crash/dropped etc? Inspection? possible but? Would it not be a better principle to give volunteers an allowance which is written off?(never buy a 2nd hand child car seat !!) Regards,Paul
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#7 Posted : 15 September 2006 21:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian P Paul I cetainly wouldn't have gone for a bargain basement alternative if I thought it was unsafe in any way. I didn't shop around and didn't honestly consider them to be a cheap alternative, if £30 is an average price. It conforms to the safety standard ECE R44.03 and does the job of lifting a child up off the car seat and has been tested for frontal/rear impact and overturning, as safe as is required I hope.
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#8 Posted : 16 September 2006 00:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By G-man with laws like this it makes you wonder how kids survived the last 80 years of transport. Another piece of rediculous nanny state legislation in my opinion
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#9 Posted : 16 September 2006 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By john frank so does this mean that car manufactured from monday need to meet this standard. some cars have seat that are only fit for children i.e. mpv,s. i take it from now then these types of cars will come with adaptabl seats similar to those in the new passat were the seat base can fold up to make a booster cushion. nanny state - i think so. i've been travelling in cars from birth like most of us, my four children have all travelled in cars. i've got 3 cars, so how many booster seats do i need? in the years of travelling, i cannot remember a occasion were i was unable to travel safely because i didn't needed a booster cushion.
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#10 Posted : 16 September 2006 10:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian P "The average British child is 90 per cent more likely to survive a crash if sitting in a properly fitted booster seat....DfT research predicts that, based on 2004 accident statistics, the new booster seat law will mean 1,774 fewer casualties a year in children aged three to 11 with over 700 less in the 9 to 11 age group alone." As a parent, even if I wanted to be as dubious as I usually am about statistics I would still have to pay attention to this.
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