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#1 Posted : 13 September 2006 18:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charlie Mc
I am extremely interested in high hazard industrial, and heavy engineering accident/incident investigation, causation, etc. and would consider taking training (paying for it myself) in the Tripod Beta philosophy, methodology and software package that is available. Has anyone any experience of this package? What benefits has it brought you in terms of 'sell-ability' to employers, and clients, and also what if any benefits it has brought your organisation? Any comments much appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 13 September 2006 22:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Lochlyn Ure
Charlie

I've used Tripod Beta, unfortunately in the heat of a fatal RTA in the Middle East some years ago. I work in oil and gas, where it is used as the model of preference for incident analysis for a certain large Anglo/Dutch conglomerate. It is based on the theory that all incidents involve a hazard, a target and an event which releases the inherent harm in the hazard which damages the target. The software builds a fault tree based around the three parts of the 'Tripod'. It has it's advantages, particularly in the discipline it enforces in an investigation. However, it is not an investigation tool, it's an analysis tool - someone still has to go out on site, interview people, take pictures, measure things and write notes i.e. the core skills required for a proper investigation. It is also designed with high hazard, big-bang activities in mind and was therefore of limited use in the awful number of road traffic accidents I either used it in or saw it being used. The fault tree can become horribly complex (Garbage In, Garbage Out) in the hands of someone who allows it to become so, and it doesn't prevent idiocy (I once saw a fault tree developed after a fatal fall from height where the hazard was defined as the 'hard ground'). So no substitute for brains. But generally speaking, I would say it's a pretty good tool to have in the toolkit, although it needs care. And you will still need to write a proper, no frills, plain speaking report which tells the story of the incident, because the one that Tripod used to spit out (it may be better now) was virtually unreadable unless you spoke the Tripod language.

Good luck with it, Andrew Ure
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#3 Posted : 14 September 2006 02:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By David McGuire
Hi I agree Tri pod has it's pro's and con's, mabye you should look at the Top Set or Tap root method? top set method is very simple to use.
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#4 Posted : 14 September 2006 08:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charlie Mc
Gents, thank you both for your response. Much obliged, I will see how things progress. Thanks again.
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#5 Posted : 18 October 2006 15:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ard
Dear Charlie
The Tripod beta philosophy is a method developed to identify the latent failures in your organisation. It is a tool for people that look for improvement rather then just fact finding. What do the facts really mean, what actions should you take and what should you change in the organisation that really contributes to an improved work environment, less prone to incidents. There are many international organisations that use Tripod for many years now and the benefits it has brought is principally a decreased incident rate and higher awareness towards safety. Also, the fact that you use one language throughout the entire organisation helps a lot concerning communication and mutual understanding. I recently analysed an incident with the Tripod Beta method and my experience was that you come to conclusions for improvement on all different levels in the organisation clearly related to the incident, broken barriers and human error.
I hope this can help you.
Regards, Ard
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