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#1 Posted : 20 September 2006 16:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zaphod Once upon a time, I responded to a forum question where someone wanted a partular type of H&S form and I responded by saying - "here, have mine". I was then in-undated with people asking for copies. Much as I like to help others, this got a bit much. So now when people ask - such as the current thread on fire risk assessment forms, I am reluctant to offer to send mine. How's about IOSH having some web space for us Forum members to upload any procedures/ forms etc that we are willing to share? Then we can all access them.
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#2 Posted : 20 September 2006 17:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer Hi Zaphod, Ideally this would be a brilliant idea as you say it would save time and effort to download from a single point. Unfortunately the problem you may encounter is one of ownership of the work within such an area. In the majority of cases if you are an employee and you have prepared a workplace document then technically your employer is the legal owner of the document. This could in my opinion place IOSH in a bit of a predicament as to allowing the possibility of unauthorised document transfer. Regards Ted
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#3 Posted : 20 September 2006 17:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By sagalout Yes and you are not the only one. Trying to help can soon become a full time job eh? Agree this would be a great addition to the website. Although there are sites around that do similar things if you can remember where they are, where better to have a library of "proven use" for IOSH members? We would need to think about whether to provide a link back to the member posting so that you could refer back.
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#4 Posted : 20 September 2006 17:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte I was actually thinking of making a similar request but instead of webspace for us to upload ducoments, how about links to already sanctioned docs such as those of fire authority homepages or the HSE website? I started making a list of commonly asked questions which I was going to add links to either HSE etc sites or previous posts. This would stop duplication of questions and an easier method of finding what your after instead of getting 100 responses from a search query. My list has started as : Accidents – RIDDOR – is it reportable? Reporting after incident where to report and who to I had an accident but it was not reported what can I/what should I do Asbestos – New legislation Notifiable? COSHH Forms MSDS PPE DSE Provision of glasses Min costs Intervals Free tests Online/self assess but to prioritise, must still assess Drug / alcohol testing Fire risk assessments Training Blank templates Pregnancy / RA Risk assessment Templates Safety pictures Injuries Accidents Unsafe acts Manual handling Temperature Maximum Minimum Training Fire RA Fire warden Manual Handling – templates Vibration Using manufacturers guidelines Limiting exposure Measuring Health monitoring Working at heights Access Limits Ladders – planned, assessed inspected, short duration FLT – cages – if designed for purpose MEWP – inspection Working time regs Rest breaks Min breaks Daily breaks Link to law site
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#5 Posted : 20 September 2006 18:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By sagalout Des, like it even better. Your list is a great start. I would be more than happy to help in collecting, collating, setting up etc if this gets off the ground. That is, I mean to be a resource to help make it happen under the direction of the webteam not to start doing it now! (Oh the joys of semi retirement!) For example I use www.safeyphoto.co.uk a lot for piccies and people already contribute to that so a link to that would do for your picture section Pete
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#6 Posted : 20 September 2006 19:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman As said, employees need to get employer's authorisation before posting any work-developed or work-related (knocked up in your own time) documents. However independants (such as wot I am)are usually (sometimes) happy to offer our own efforts to desrving cases. But we do like to be acknowledged as original sources of whatever it was. It can take me tens, dozens, hundreds of hours to develop, check, test a ppt. (I've been prresenting what is basically the same BBS presentation for at least five years but I know it can still be improved) half a day to run up an audit check list. Two days to develop a questionnaire. I may give them away but I would like to be acknowledged. Or even paid. Merv Sorry monotors, but I am so loooking forward to this : seared duck breasts with honey glaze, snow peas, sauteé potatoes and beaujolais. And I'm not the one doing the cooking. Oh. and home-brewed coconut yougurt.
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#7 Posted : 21 September 2006 08:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Longworth Simple answer to the original post. If you answer someone's request for help and send them a form just do as I do and email it to them without then posting "I emailed you direct". What is the point of that anyway?
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#8 Posted : 21 September 2006 08:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby' I have to agree with Peter....Indeed, I tend not to post these days as there seems to be some over sensitive, or overly critical folk out there.... I too just email the required info/documentation/etc direct and, although its nice to be thanked, I do not post an 'emailed you directly', it generally just means you have more posts to wade through. Philby'
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#9 Posted : 21 September 2006 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus do a google search for "revision aids by otto" I find this site has some interesting things on it
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#10 Posted : 21 September 2006 12:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne Zaphod, Descarte - Brilliant ideas! In fact I think I'll say it again cos it is a brilliant idea. Like Merv though, I would like some recognition though but must be a way of doing this. Brilliant link to Ottos helpful hints as well.
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#11 Posted : 21 September 2006 17:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan Dear all, When the idea of space on the IOSH web-site for free safety info. was first suggested a number of years ago, it wasn't taken up, nor has it been done for a variety of reasons explained by IOSH officials. However my company was able to respond by setting up Safety Exchange on our web-site. Over the years this has received extensive use both by people offering their PPTs, technical papers etc. free of charge to other professionals. The service has proved beneficial to many people with some presentations being downloaded thousands of times. To date there has been in the region of 75,000 downloads of the most popular resources. Everyone is welcome to submit safety presentations, PPT, teaching notes, technical and theoretical papers or any other document relating to safety, with the requirement that the copyright holder gives their permission for it to be published on-line. Users of the exchange are asked to respect copyright, acknowledge the doner by contacting them (a courtesy thing here)and if they want to alter a presentation to make it specific to their situation to definately seek the copyright owners permission before doing so. All in all it has been a very successful project (and for those who fear that this is a commercial venture, I can reassure you that it is a totally free service for all who use it). Regards, Philip
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#12 Posted : 21 September 2006 18:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Phillip, ok, but why has IOSH banished threads which lead to other such sites. I remember Marks "Free safety site" which was totally napalmed by the monitaurs. Do you pay a fee to be "referenced" ? Merv What would happen today if I were to set up a site with hundreds of documents and links to usefull sites ? In fact, I think I might do that. We have a website www.insafety.org e-mail is insafety@fc-net.fr If posters want to send me docs then I could develop a library of downloadable info. Would I be allowed to to mention this on the chat forum ? Or would I get napalmed ? And how would the monitaurs justify such a reaction ? Merv Time now is 6.38 pm. How long till this gets pulled ?
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#13 Posted : 22 September 2006 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rochelle Cartmell I use another H&S website and they have a section for free downlaods of information ie powerpoint presentations etc, which is easily accessible and user friendly. I don't know their AUG's but I believe it is pretty similar to IOSH's
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#14 Posted : 22 September 2006 15:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ali Good idea, but there may be copyright issues if people are using it for commercial gain (tut tut...). Also, forms , like anything else, need updating from time time - who is going to do this ? Sorry, I don't mean to be a spoilsport - just thinking ahead.
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#15 Posted : 23 September 2006 02:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By B Smart why not try a wiki site where you can upload, download files, give discriptions, write editorials or even advertise yourself. Try www.hse.wiki.com it has just been setup in response to the ever popular demands for information and files on this and other websites. As it is in it's infancy there isn't much to download, but plenty of space to upload and promote yourself. B. Smart
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#16 Posted : 23 September 2006 02:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By B Smart Maybe not so smart after all, the web address should really be http://hse.wiki.com B. Smart
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