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Posted By J A Wilson
Is there any clear guidance on identifying a 'basic scaffold'
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Posted By Chris Pope
No I don't think there is
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Posted By Richard Altoft
Sorry not sure what you are driving at - how does being basic affect requirements??
Are we debating diference between designed and "standard configuration" perhaps ????
Otherwise I would suggest the normal dictionary definition applies and basic scaffolding is elementary or simple temporary framework giving access to or support to or allowing work at height.Interestingly the WAH Regs define a working platform and leave scaffold undefined suggesting it is so obvious (or so complex) they felt a definition undesirable. Part 2a of Schedule 3 gives requirements for scaffolding which the dictionary defines as a scaffold or a system of scaffolds or the materials to build a scaffold
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Posted By Salus
mornin, JA, i think you are reffering to an independent tied scaffold where the scaffold is completely independent of the building. The scaffold supports it's own weight down to the ground on two sets of standards.
The other is a putlog scaffold where buildings are brick built, this type depends on the support of the walls of the building to carry the load.The putlogs actually go into the wall of the building with a single row of standards on the outerside
Hope this is of some help
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Posted By ddraigice
Do you mean a scaffold that does not need to be "designed"?
A basic scaffold in this instance is one that complies with the current BS (in fact any relevant BS so the old one will do and is not as onerous).
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Posted By RP
The CITB produce a very good book, Practical Guide for Scaffolding
Also BS Standards for Working Platforms and Access Scaffolding
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Scaffolding Contractors Association
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Posted By J A Wilson
Thank you for your comments.
My query was generated by the July 2006 HSE guidance on 'Work at Height Regulations 2005'
They indicated 'Many scaffolds should have been designed but were not'and when I referred to the information sheet its guidance on 'Design Issues' was that all tube and fitting should be designed by a competent person, unless a 'basic scaffold'. A list of structures that required to be designed was then given.
Presumably these were not 'basic'
I was seeking clarification of this.
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Posted By Antony McManus
Certain scaffolds are not allowed to be built by a 'Basic Scaffolder' ie suspended scaffolds, truss-outs, flying shores for example. To erect such scaffolds, the builder had to be an 'Advanced Scaffolder'. These are grades of competence devised by the CITB.
However, times have changed and an advanced scaffolder is 'officially' not allowed to erect such scaffolds unless they have been provided with a design drawing thus taking liability away from the tradesman and placing it on the designer. In the real world, however, this is not always the case.
I'm not saying that this is the case everywhere and guidance may have changed (its been a while since I was a scaffolder).
better guidance can be provided from agenciesw such as CITB www.citb-constructionskills.co.uk or NASC www.nasc.org.uk
Hope this helps.
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