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#1 Posted : 24 September 2006 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Antony McManus A friend of mine works for the local authority in 'Refuse Collection' role, not a 'binman' but a roving role across the county. Recently, he's been asked to clear 'road kill' amongst other things. Does anyone know of any regs, guidance, best practice etc that should be employed whilst undertaking this task? Cheers Tony Mc
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#2 Posted : 25 September 2006 11:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Incolumitas Pheasant and hare should be hung for at least 14 days, otherwise it will be rather tough. Merv should be able to provide some best practice on how to prepare the kill, like the best red wine for the marinade.
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#3 Posted : 25 September 2006 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker There was a confirmed death due to Anthrax a few weeks ago in Scotland. One suspected source was a dead badger the bloke had found on the side of the road that he used the skin to make a drum. I agree that most game benefits from hanging for a few weeks. Had a nice piece of venision last week that originated from road kill. Very expensive though -took the wing clean off my mates car! Always wanted to try hedgehog baked in clay but have never had the courage.
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#4 Posted : 25 September 2006 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt Don't handle, use tools (shovel and tongs)to double bag the flattened fauna. Disposed of in bag into RCV, goes to landfill, no flowers by request of the family. Large animals e.g. cows require a specialist site for disposal. Game requires hanging due to the oxygen transfer protein being myoglobin rather than haemoglobin in the muscles of some game. Myoglobin hangs onto oxygen for longer than haemoglobin so that sustained flight can occur with less oxygen requirement; grouse "lean burn" technology if you will. Kind regards Jeff
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#5 Posted : 25 September 2006 11:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Antony McManus Thanks for the advice but, I usually let my Butcher take care of things like that. Looks like we've got two of those 'Safety Professionals' that give our industry a bad name. You know the type, you ask them a question to which they don't have the answer and instead of admitting it, they'll say "I'll get back to you" and you don't see them for dust.....Very reassuring!!!! Maybe you two jokers should send your comments to the family of the guy who died from Anthrax to see if they are taking the issue seriously. Obviously a death by disease is not as important, to some people, as someone dying in a fall from height, for example. Or is it just that you simply don't have an answer.......... Thoughts / Comments
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#6 Posted : 25 September 2006 11:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Antony McManus Thanks Jeff
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#7 Posted : 25 September 2006 11:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker My comment about the anthrax was to demonstrate that you do indeed need a good SSoW for this job. And that a wide range of issues need consideration. Sorry you feel we must at all times avoid jovial remarks
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#8 Posted : 25 September 2006 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak As Jeff says do not handle, always ensure appropriate gloves etc, have been provided to prevent disease. However that said perhaps the bigger risk factor could well be moving traffic, ensuring that effective protection of the workforce from moving traffic is essential to prevent the individuals collecting road kill from becoming it themselves! Signage, coning off, Hi-vis clothing, ensuring their vehicle is behind rather than in front of them are all things that should be considered in the mapping out of a process for this job, and traffic should rate highly on the risk factors in the associated RA. As for uses of road kill, my dog loves it and it saves a fortune on her feed bill!
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#9 Posted : 25 September 2006 12:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze It may, or may not be relevant (what with the migration season on us and all) but DEFRA gave guidance on handling bird carcasses in the light of Avian flu concerns. They can be found here: http://www.defra.gov.uk/...e/ai/wildbirds/index.htm It seems to me that if you follow these guidelines, then your staff will be protected from the worst infections you could expect to get. Don't forget manual handling issues, badgers and deer can be heavy (can't easily be lifted with a shovel!). There was also a thread on this in April (about Avian Flu) with some useful stuff on, though it should be read with care by folk who don't appreciate the recipies: http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=1&thread=19154 PS - I heared that they use explosives in British Columbia to remove roadkill, can anyone confirm this? But then your average moose is a bit bigger than the average badger.
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#10 Posted : 25 September 2006 12:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Incolumitas Sorry if you were offended by a bit of light hearted fun. Your posting was slipping off the bottom of the page unanswered. I had nothing to contribute but by going back to the top you picked up a wider Monday audience and a few more serious answers. However, I do now have a comment. I understand that the drum maker was using imported East European skins, and the anthrax came from one of those, not a Scottish badger. The biggest health problem with badgers is that they carry TB. So respiratory protection is probably indicated if disposing of a squashed dead badger.
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#11 Posted : 25 September 2006 15:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Drew Anthony, Since we seem to be talking badgers it is worth noting that under the Protection of Badgers Act 1992 it is an offence to possess a dead badger or part thereof. A bit of a tangent I'll admit but possibly useful information. Kevin Drew
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#12 Posted : 25 September 2006 16:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Antony McManus Jim, nothing wrong with writing something funny.....let me know when you do. Joking aside, Like most others who use the forums, we do so because we can't locate the info we require or we request the advice of someone more knowledgeable. If people just make 'joke' comments about serious issues then surely it will undermine people’s confidence in using the forums. As an example, what if a person was new to working in H & S and I sought advice with a question on the forums. How do think that person would react if their first ‘request’ for info was met with a tirade of ‘p***taking’ by their ‘more learned peers’? I don’t think they’d ask a question again…….We, in our industry, should remember this…… Right, that’s my rant over for the day. Thanks all for the help. Had a look at then Swan recipes and maybe they’d work better with some Oregano and crushed Phenol, what d’ya think?
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#13 Posted : 25 September 2006 16:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt I prefer crushed Benzene as my polycyclic hrdrocarbon seasoning on swan.
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#14 Posted : 25 September 2006 16:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt or even "hydrocarbon". The gods conspire against this fool once again.
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#15 Posted : 25 September 2006 17:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By GJB Jeez, for a minute I thought H & S was going to start being a fun industry!... Glad to see the reprimands are in place for a bit of fun! Move on!.. Get over yourself. And take care... From The Educator!
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#16 Posted : 25 September 2006 18:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By the badger Hi Did someone call? Are we talking badgers? Back to Anthony's question: These roving refuse collectors do an excellent job. We could not be without them. Given the range of objects and substances which they have to collect, I suspect that most road kill will come at the lower end of the scale of risk. There are limited range of precautions which can be taken by people doing this task. I think Anthony would find it helpful if the ones needed for road kill were identified along with the reasons why they are necessary. Try working with this list: 1) Gloves - standard issue 2) Disposable gloves 3) Coveralls 4) Disposable coveralls 5) Hi-vis jacket 6) Safety boots - standard issue 7) Wellington boots 8) Eye protection 9) Face protection 10) Disposable respirator 11) Shovel and some sort of stick 12) Bag (road kill for the containing of) I would be happy to do the job with 1, 3, 5, 6, 11 and 12 with the proviso that I would inform my supervisor about anything which I felt was too heavy to pick up. I'll say again, I feel that road kill is pretty low risk compared with some of the other stuff those carrying out this essential task have to collect. Anyone care to comment?
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#17 Posted : 26 September 2006 04:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By B Smart Come on guys stop the badgering
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