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#1 Posted : 25 September 2006 17:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By artisdeeian Having recieved fire extinguisher use training. would I be concidered competent enough to train others in the use of such equipment. Together with an understanding and knowledge of the fire triangle etc. is this a good basis to pass on this knowledge as a training programme. Regards Ian Kenning
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#2 Posted : 25 September 2006 17:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By GJB Hi Ian, It very much would depend on who you are training and to what degree i.e what is their current knowledge, what industry do you work in may also come into play. I see no reason why you cannot pass on your knowledge and skill to those that require it. May be more beneficial than getting an external trainer such as myself in. Again, it really depends on differing circumstances, outlined above. Take care.
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#3 Posted : 25 September 2006 17:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever Ian This is just a personal opinion, but I believe that what ever subject you intend to teach you must have some solid background and experience behind you in that subject. I know that use of an extinguisher is easy but it is a life safety piece of equipment. If someone that you taught makes a serious mistake then they or others may point the finger at you. Are you insured?
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#4 Posted : 25 September 2006 20:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Whoaaaa…… Ian – We don’t know your capabilities and if you are indeed ‘competent’ to do the job – you may well be. To be a trainer – I would say that you have to have some training knowledge (delivering) and then some broad experience of the subject. Just shooting off an extinguisher and listening to someone won’t really give you that. Was the extinguisher used on a live fire, was it oil or was it on solids? Do you remember the techniques used and are you confident you can pass on the relevant information. Can you answer any and all questions about the equipment? As Shaun suggests the liability question raises its ugly head yet again. Getting somebody in – try and go by recommendation or at least a meeting with the provider to establish the content of the instruction. Shaun – The use of an extinguisher may be easy to you and me. I think from previous responses that you also have a wide experience in fire related issues, but to some it can be quite daunting for some.
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#5 Posted : 25 September 2006 21:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor You may well be able to pass on the knowledge of how to use an extinguisher. However training itself requires competence and it is often useful to extend training in this area to the broader issue of fire safety in order to provide information on the nature and causes of fire (including the hazards of fire, smoke and combustion products)and means of preventing its occurrence and spread in addition to its extinguishment. So, by all means tell your colleagues what you now know about using the extinguishers in your workplace but also consider the need for acquiring broader knowledge and competence in the interesting and scary subject of fire before setting up as a trainer.
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#6 Posted : 26 September 2006 23:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By chris white I would put it like this. The person who trained you gave you knowledge in the correct selection and use of portable fire extinguishers and possibly general fire awarness training. That is what you are now trained for. You have not been trained to train others. Courses are available along those lines, normally called train the trainer, such as. http://www.tbfc.org.uk/courses/bfc69.htm Hope this helps.
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#7 Posted : 27 September 2006 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren J Fraser Whilst in agreement with the responses so far, I believe your question is more to do with passing the knowledge you received, namely how to select the correect extinguisher, how to operate (instructions already on extinguisher, therefore a backup) and that is it. Lets be totally honest, in the event of a fire, someone will grab an extinguisher, normally the nearest, not nessecarily the correct one e.g. PC monitor on fire, nearest extinguisher is water, spend a minute or two reading the instructions, hopefully realise it is the wrong one and look for the correct one, but likely to follow instructions and possibly ending up injuring themselves and/or others. Do not call it training, call it extinguisher identification awareness - keep it simple, explain what is the best extinguisher for set scenerios and explain the instructions of how to operate. DO NOT CARRY OUT A LIVE DEMONSTRATION INVOLVING A FIRE, but there is no reason that you could not set one of each off in the car park for example to show how easy they are to use. Most important of all, is to ensure that everyone is aware of the company fire procedure, if that states that only trained persons can use a fire extinguisher, then IMHO, I would not show those who have not received the training you obviously have how to operate an extinguisher, just reinforce the message to get out and stay out, do not collect personal belongings etc. If you want to carry out training, I would strongly suggest that you look at one of the many courses avaliable, to further develop your skill set, namely NEBOSH fire certificate, Fire Engineers 9 day course etc, (the 9 day course actually covers the training of persons to become fire wardens/marshalls, and part of the course is to do with developing a training programme for use within your company).
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