Posted By David Bramall
Jay

Acouple of points for thought.

Firstly I can sumpathise with your problem, as, I am sure the council do, however, there are a couple of points that need to be made.

The police are responsible for enforcement of speed limits. Why not contact them yourself and get your neighbours to do likewise. The council have decided that a 30mph is applicable, but they cannot enforce it, only the police.

KSI's are a standard measure for remedial action throughout the highways industry. Although it is unfortunate that someone has to be killed or seriously injured before anything is done, the same situation that you face probably occurs in many locations. In an ideal world, the finance would be available to carry out every piece of work that may be needed, but as you will be aware, all organisations have to justify their spending, and so, if your site compares favourably to several others in terms of accidents then the obvious priority is to carry out works at the worst locations first.

Yes petitions are relevant, however, I would say petition the police to enforce the thing instead of peitioning the council to re-prioritise their spending plans.

Yes there is an obvious hazard at this location, but based on the balance of risk and cost (with no KSI's) surely the cost vastly outweighs the risk whereas other sites are probably the reverse and really do need action.

Sorry it probably is not the answer you were looking for, but I did feel it was necassary to give my honest opinion.

Regards

DrB

Posted By jom
Jason.

This week in rural Victoria, Australia, we had a shocking head-on collision that took seven lives. It has raised the exact same issue you are concerned about.

Here's an extract from today's newspaper editorial:-

"The intersection has, it seems, been a cause of concern to local residents for decades. In 2000, VicRoads refused a council request to improve conditions at the intersection on the grounds it did not have a sufficiently high accident rate to qualify as a black spot. This curious reasoning — waiting for an accident to happen rather than an accident waiting to happen — has resulted in seven deaths. We assume the intersection has now earned its black spot."

The full editorial is here:-

http://www.theage.com.au...09/28/1159337281530.html

John.

Posted By Alan Nicholls
Or if you are very serious!!! You could do what a local Engineer did. Constructed a box to look like a GATSO painted it yellow positioned it (On private property) just inside the speed limit.

Guess what it worked....no more speeding motorists.
For a while at least.
Its worth a try if every thing else fails.
Get support from your local press that should speed things along, no pun intended.

Did your council reply to you quickly or not. I have issues with ours who have up to a 10 day response time.

Best of luck Alan N

Guess what they haven't met that one either...

Posted By Stuart Nagle
If you want action on speeding, your best bet is to make a formal complaint to the local police authority who are responsible for policing the law in respect of motoring offences, not the local highways department. If you can present evidence to them too, such as video/witness statements or a petition signed by residents all the better.

If, following police intervention it can be proved that a danger exists, you will have ammunition to pass to your local authority councillors who sit on the Traffic/Transportation/Road safety Committees of your local authority with a view to getting a road safety survey completed and perhaps being able to get action taken to improve the problem.

If you do not go through the channels that are in place you will find it a lot harder to achieve your goals...

Hope this is of assistance...

Stuart