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#1 Posted : 02 November 2006 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Marcus74 My company occasionally carry out business trips that involve driving through Europe for 4 - 5 days at a time. For example we will take 3 vehicles each with 2 people from the UK to Finland driving between 300-500 miles daily over an 8-9 hour day. The drivers take regular breaks and will swap with the passenger at least every 2 hours so each persons driving hours should be no more than 4.5 hrs per day. All drivers have had experience or training to drive in snow / icy conditions etc. Our Risk Assessment highlights the requirement for 1st aid kits to be in each car but I was wondering whether there should be a requirement for at least one of the group to be 1st aid trained ? I am thinking along the lines of one of the group becoming ill or injured whilst driving through a remote part of Scandanavia. None of the group are 1st aid trained and none can speak the native language ! My feeling is that there is a need for at least one trained 1st aider. Your views would be appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 02 November 2006 15:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Marcus, based on the concept that you should administer any first aid without apprpriate training, then the first aid kit would be redundant without a first aider.....so training would be a good thing. Also, ensure they can contact someone in an emergency and are not left out in the wilderness with the mooses or elks or whatever those bing thing with boney bits on their heads are called. Holmezy. Because I'm on holiday tomorrow, today is my Friday so apologies for any frivolity. Going the take my VFR to the bike show. Oh and its my birthday...so I'm allowed a little joke!
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#3 Posted : 02 November 2006 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy sorry missed a "not" out between should and administer. Its the excitement, don't you know. Nearly beer time.
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#4 Posted : 02 November 2006 15:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By John O'Driscoll Hi marcus. I agree with Holmezy.In addition to comms, also consider detailed road map, gps sat nav, and an emergency breakdown toolkit suitable for the conditions. John.
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#5 Posted : 02 November 2006 16:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Calum Clark Not strictly first aid but this is a useful page on the AA website. http://www.theaa.com/mot...as/countrybycountry.html You can search by country for the differences in motoring laws such as speed limits, snow chains and the fact that Italy requires you to have high vis jackets to hand at night. Calum
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#6 Posted : 02 November 2006 16:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Never been to Finland. Doesn't it snow and get a bit chilly sometimes ? Be prepared. Our company office was in Geneva, about 150 miles from the site. Driving there meant going up to about 3000 feet. Heavy risk of snow. We had a "winter kit" which went into the boot over the cold season. I know that's a bit off thread. I agree with others that it is a good idea to have at least one first aider. Try to persuade the highest paid member of the team to get the training. I know they can't spare the time but I have a number of reasons for suggesting that, not the least of which is that those bosses who do do it find it quite fulfilling. Merv
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#7 Posted : 02 November 2006 17:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor A basic 'esentials of first-aid' type mini training session should be adequate to use the contents of a first-aid kit in those circumstances - provided that they have the means to call the emergency services if needed.
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#8 Posted : 02 November 2006 22:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Brunskill Someone has touched on this already but have you considered the risk of breaking down in the isolated areas in Scandinavia. Probably more of an issue than "accidents" requiring first aid beyond common sense. The cold, and on occasion heat can be a killer and can catch the unwary ill prepared. Sounds as though your guys travel in convoy so it may be easy to deal with. But PPPPPP. Are these guys the same team travelling all over or do the actual people vary. Maybe worth putting all of them on a 1 or 2 day course designed to meet their specific needs rather than a generic "HSE" First Aid Course.
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