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#1 Posted : 08 November 2006 12:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Doe Apologies, friends but I can't trawl through all the RIDDOR threads. Injured person carries on working until a couple of days after the incident. Reportable? Cheers
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#2 Posted : 08 November 2006 12:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy John, if the injured person then has more than 3 days off, then yes, its reportable.
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#3 Posted : 08 November 2006 12:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK if the injured person is unable to resume their normal duties for more than 3 days, then yes.
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#4 Posted : 08 November 2006 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Phillips There is no time limit to reporting injuries or diseases under RIDDOR. We recently had an employee who had an accident at work that did not require any medical attention and seemed to be a minor incident. Five weeks later he went into hospital for an operation on a shoulder that he claims was injured a result of the accident. Since the operation required him to be off work for over 3 months I was obliged to report to the HSE as an over 3 day accident. Time delays between the incident and time off as a result do not affect the fact that they must be reported but may aid the employer in defending a case should the employee take the matter further.
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#5 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Doe Many thanks. Just what I needed.
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#6 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Maria Featherstone I believed the time limit to be one year after the event. Or is that just in case of death as a result of a work injury?
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#7 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Glyn, we recently had a similar situation with an employee having an accident, but not having time off. After a few weeks the injury got worse and the employee then had a week off. The incident was reported, giving the origional date of the accident, and to our surprise, we got a snotty letter and a visit from an inspector telling us we have breached the 10 day rule for reportables and that we would probably be fined if we did it again. The inspector seemed quite embarassed to have to tell us this, as after listening to the explanation of the circumastances, he agreed that there was nothing we could do, in fact we would have been better off not reporting it. Rules is rules.........apparently! Now everytime theres an accident entered in the book, I give my crystal ball a quick rub to see if there are going to be any long term or delayed effects!!
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#8 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By William I think it may be a few decades longer if it was a disease, ie: a disease which has come about from exposure to asbestos or radiation, also what about RSI? disease or injury?
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#9 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Repetitive strain INJURY. Definately not a disease, cant catch it from other people!!
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#10 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By William I thought i would have to share this with you all as this is very relevent to this subject and you will not beleive it: Last year a worker came off a oil rig in the northern UK sector with a broken arm ( no names but they know who they are), but did not report it until a few days after he got home, and if you think that is unbeleivable you should also be aware that when you are traveling off an offshore installation you must wear a survival suit which has rubber around the sleaves and neck to make it water tight and is not very easy to get on and off at the best of times, let alone with a broken arm. His reason for not reporting it was that his uncle was on the same rig and had also been involved in an accident just days before and he did not want to make his family look stupid! The company involved accepted his explanation and the incident went down as an LTI.
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#11 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Phillips Holmez I think you had an over zealous inspector - without knowing the exact details. You are correct in so much as the report must be made within 10 days of the accident. However, in some circumstances this is just not possible. RIDDOR reg 3(1) sets out the reporting requirements and time frames. The ACOP (para 52) allows a delayed reporting in certain circumstances. In these cases the notification and report required by Reg 3(1) should be made as soon as the injury or condition has been confirmed. Note the use of the wording 'confirmed'. This to me implies that i can await a medical diagnosis in circumstances such as those described. You cannot report something of which you have no knowledge. I believe we should all be pragmatic with reporting, i would not want to report every minor papercut just in case the employee decides to go off sick next week and blame it on an infection caused by the cut.
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#12 Posted : 08 November 2006 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By William Definition of disease from Answers.com A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms
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#13 Posted : 08 November 2006 23:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Brunskill Lots of diseases are not transmissible - Cancer for example.
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