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#1 Posted : 08 November 2006 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Joe Ridley Hi there, A quick question, prior to allowing contractors on to a roof to carry out work, should the manager of the building have carried out (or arranged for) a risk assessmentto be carried out before anyone goes on to the roof.Or should the contractor do this? Cheers Joe
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#2 Posted : 08 November 2006 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By P.R Hi Joe I believe that risk assessments should be carried out by competent persons, which in this case is the contractor. The manager may want to carry out his own RA, but this would not relieve the contractors responsibility. Regards P
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#3 Posted : 08 November 2006 16:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Devlin The contractor should provide a method statement for the work and include the risk assessment with this before work stars. cheers Paul
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#4 Posted : 09 November 2006 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By ddraigice The contractor needs to do this but the manager also needs to risk assess any potential risks to his workforce working underneath etc. The contractors risk assessment should also be checked by a competent person within the organisation. Do not just assume they'll be doing it correctly - they could put employees and your business at risk.
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#5 Posted : 09 November 2006 10:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Joe On a slight side; you do of course have a duty to ensure the premises are generally safe to be worked on, and in the event you are aware of prevailng hazards these should be made known to the contractor. They will of course take account of any within their overall SSOW. It would be wise to document any findings you consider relevant to the contractors overall safety so that they may make provision within their own survey prior to preparing site specific RA's, If all is fine and dandy then you will have little to report to them. CFT
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#6 Posted : 09 November 2006 18:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor If the employer's own employees access the roof at any time (eg for routine cleaning and maintenance), the employer should have a risk assessment for their work. In this case, it would be advisable for the employer to provide this information to the principal contractor as it is likely to include reference to known hazards, etc. However, it is the PCs duty to assess the risks for working there for his/her own workforce.
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#7 Posted : 09 November 2006 19:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By STEVE Joe Need to be careful what about this situation we provide general cleaners, however the Client provides the tasks(we do not know what they are from day to day mainly spillages), Client shows our Supervisor what is to be achieved, he then provides a Safe Working Practice and our employees complete a daily basic ticky box assessment(very limited -Client system) Supervisor has limited safety knowledge (being addressed), on Client showing Supervisor what is too be achieved, the Client slips on the area that our cleaners are given the task of cleaning( water , algae, vegetation) Our cleaners told to take care when doing the job the next day, provided with the SWP to read. Next day our cleaners are doing the task that they have been set to do and one person slips and pulls his back. This has led to him being signed off for two wks , this is now reportable under Riddor. Whilst we have a level of supervision, there is no safety person, our employees are reliant on the CLIENT providing the safe system of work, they also provide the necessary PPE dependant on the task. The tasks vary each day, and our employees are sent to deal with the cleaning problems as they occur. On investigation set of recommendations where suggested this has not gone down well.(cost?) As a small Company we do not have the resource for a safety person on this site, and are reliant on the Client Supervisor (he knows the hazards, has the safety knowledge, has a safety dept for advice,but is also accountable for costs) if this has a bearing on reducing our risks could this be a factor in putting our men in potential unsafe areas Steve
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