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Posted By Richie
Now that our serial troll(ist?) has been dealt with, I feel there would be benefit in knowing what their user-name was.
It would be nice to review recent thread's to which I had posted genuine contributions, to identify if the trolls had had an undesired effect. I rather suspect though that they were in the main ignored.
So who was it?
Richie
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Posted By J Knight
Well, it wasn't me. I think I missed most of this being out of the office etc for much of the last couple of weeks,
John
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Posted By Peter Leese
A double bluff Richie?
Or too much Le Carre methinks!
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Posted By Descarte
I have emailed you direct, I dont think we should discuss and name / shame people here.
If you've been watching the forums this past week you should have a pretty good idea who it could have been
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Posted By Edward Shyer
I would agree with descarte, It would not have any benefits to name and shame. By naming and shaming wouldn't that put IOSH into a bit of a predicament. They have dealt with it that should suffice.
Regards
Ted
PS it was not me?
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Posted By mark limon
We will have to watch our ps and qs now we can be tracked.
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Posted By Merv Newman
OK, I saw all the screw-ups and the "apology" But I was not happy that the apologist hid behind their log-in without having the courage to admit to their real name.
I sign on to this forum with my full name and main e-mail address because I want to be recognised and have nothing to hide.
Sometimes the minotaurs or other posters pull me up because I have erred or failed to respect the Aug.
So I learn. And I have great respect for this forum and for the other users.
Let's do our best to keep it open and honest. The minotaurs are doing a great job. Thanks.
Merv
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Posted By Ron Young
I'm sorry, I don't visit the site as often as I used to, so can anyone enlighten me on what this is all about please?
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Posted By David Bannister
I too use my real name and identity. If others think my posts are worth challenging or adding-to then that's what this Forum is all about. If I post rubbish then I'm sure that I will be rubbished.
In my view anyone who will not use their real name is hiding from something or someone.
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Posted By mark limon
This is my real name
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Posted By Squirrel
I don't want to start any argument - but i would like to express my view on the matter of not using my real name......
I am a fully qualified safety professional with NOTHING to hide from any other user. My reasons for choosing not to disclose my name and contact details etc. are not for any other reason but that of privacy.
These forums are a fantastic opportunity to receive and/or offer help and advice. Names are irrelevant.
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Posted By Richie
I think my question was not framed well enough to elicit the information I was requesting.
I do not wish to know the actual name of the troll, simply their forum user-name.
Anyone any idea of the troll's forum user name?
Richie
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Posted By Merv Newman
Ron,
if you go back a page or two you will see that a lot of postings had to be blocked by the monitors as "inappropriate" or whatever. some people were trying to have some sort of a joke which really upset a lot of other people. I think the current problem has been dealt with but it may happen again.
Please do as the monitors say and, if you find an "inappropriate" posting contact the monitors at web team
Merv
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Posted By Descarte
I emailed you on the email account you have listed on here, however this appears to be a personal/home email.
Once again I doubt anyone would name shame them here
Ps^ Descarte is not my real name;) however if I contact anyone in person I use my work address with my real name as Im sure many can testify.
However I do not like having my work email show on these forums due to the amount of spam and stupid mailing lists I get signed up for, thats what my hotmail account is for :-) However I will and do happily reply to questions received through it.
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Posted By Edward Shyer
I wonder where this is leading to.
Is it the next move to make everyone who log onto the forums must use their genuine name before being allowed to post.
what difference does it make if you use your real name or not isn't that the choice of the individual. The important thing is the Mods or web team can contact the individuals who fall foul of the AUGs.
Regards
Ted
Yes this is my real name
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Posted By J Knight
HI Folks,
Disappointed that we don't have a real 17th Century French sage posting on this forum; for me that robs it of a little lustre.
As I have said before, though J (John) Knight is my real name, I don't have my email visible as I have no use for JCBs from Vietnam, though I must thank the kind people who used my bank accounts to store vast sums of money for my current opulent and leisurely lifestyle.
We get to know who is serious and who isn't fairly quickly, I think, but presumably these Trolls must have been OTT in their comments.
Do agree with Merv; the Minotaurs do well in interpreting the auguries,
John
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Posted By Descarte
Sorry to dissapoint,
though if you ever want to partake in polite discourse the phylisophical and metaphysical conundrums which have plagued mankind since time began, my emails there for the taking^
But if your a Nigerian Prince wrongfully incarcerated with millions of dollars sitting in offshore accounts wanting my help, then please use my other account info@cia.gov
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Posted By mark limon
Ted,I use my real name because I dont post from work.
I suspect that the people who dont use their real name dont want their bosses to find out they are on here instead of working :-) .
I would be against compulsory feal names.
However one advantage to my email being visible is Im about to get a large sum of money from a beautiful nigerian princess put into my account!!.
If anyone can email me te trolls name I would be grateful and curious to see if I guessed right.
Mark
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Posted By Peter Leese
I've had contributions blanked (and even removed) because '...nothing to do with H&S...'. So what is this thread then?
But it's allowed to stay. Good, we need a bit of fun in what appears to some very starchy existences. And it's given the over the fence chatterers something to talk about.
Keep up the good work moderators!
Up the Trolls...
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Posted By Saracen11
Hi Richie and others... Saracen11 is my real name, Hmmm!??!!
I don't post my real name or contact email address due to the endless nonsense I received some time ago (I used to be called Saracen10, but changed my name by deed poll)... my spam blocker couldn't cope with trolls.
I've been caught out by the trolls recently, no harm done, just wasted my time...
Regards
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Posted By Pete48
I do not care who or what the troll was as long as it has gone. Well done the mods!
"In my view anyone who will not use their real name is hiding from something or someone" is a comment from earlier on this thread. It implies a malevolent intent that I think is not the case for many of us who choose to use nicknames.
This use of nicknames is not a product of the electronic age, it has been used for generations to allow involvement in a public domain that might otherwise be impossible. We must remember that this an open and public forum NOT a members only forum. Recent events have shown that clearly.
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Posted By joanne doherty
ok for start off's this is my real identity,
second i have been contacted by someone claiming to have a job available through this website. They Didn't. They lied and this is currently being investigated by iosh.
I have used this website many times before and had many interviews from it.
I'm all for showing peoples true identities, I believe that if they are a member of iosh then their membership number should be posted alongside their sign in name to avoid anything that I have been through myself over the past few weeks.
Please moderators. Do not remove this post as I believe people should know what is going on in a 'professional institution'.
Many thanks and probably apologies
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Posted By Merv Newman
I may have been misunderstood. It is simply that I was disappointed that the person who caused us so many problems and eventually apologised still hid behind a pseudonym.
Actually I don't really care who they were. I'm certain that it was no-one I know or would wish to know personally.
Be pseudonymous if you ike. Fine by me. Has anyone taken Zorro yet ? Or I might go for Louis XXV
Merv (for now)
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Posted By David Bannister
I still stand by my posted view that using a pseudonym is hiding. It is similar to standing at the back of the crowd and yelling. Sometimes it may be yelling abuse, othertimes yelling encouragement but always with the protection of anonymity.
This forum is hosted by IOSH for its members and visitors to exchange information and opinions, whilst the contributors (mostly) offer their own pearls of wisdom, sometimes in hilarious ways (and long may it continue). I still fail to understand why any contributor feels the need to hide.
Please educate me.
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Posted By Paul
This thread is starting to remind me of a rather small island off of the coast of..?
"Where am I?"
"In the Village."
"What do you want?"
"Information."
"Whose side are you on?"
"That would be telling....
We want information. Information! INFORMATION..
Sorry.. having a Friday moment there.. We know what they are and we know what they do.. Trolls thrive on constant attention and this thread will just feed their addiction, so why not call a halt to their amusement and end this thread here?
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Posted By Edward Shyer
Just a thought
People are saying that they prefer to use their true identities and others are saying they are not worried about the identity of posters.
One responder has asked that both the name and membership number is to be used. The problem I find with this is that it could lead unscrupulous people using an individual name and membership number to obtain employment and may lead to possible identity fraud.
Could I suggest that the user name for members is the membership number only and that the registered user name is used for non members. This way you can identify who are members (as has been suggested in other postings) and who are not. The added benefit of this it may lead to the type of responses that go like "if you don't know the answer to this then you are in the wrong business" being eradicated.
Regards
Ted
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Posted By darren booth
there are some worthy suggestions in this thread, it may be an idea to begin a separate thread just for these ideas-i have seen this work well on other forums.
as for trolls?
dont feed them!
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Posted By J Knight
Ted,
While I see your point, I wouldn't feel able to respond in the same way to a number; in any event, how would you keep track of everybody? (was that 29678 I just responded to or was it 29687?).
And to follow on from a previous post on this thread:
'I am not a number, I am a free man (though professional services are of course, subject to the usual fee)'
John
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Posted By Edward Shyer
Hi John.
I can see your point and would agree in principal but as I said it was just a thought.
One of the other problems at the moment is that anyone can register and receive an e-mail with a password and then come on the site creating havoc within minutes. A possible solution would be a review of this area.
My response was hopefully trying to get some brainstorming going so that IOSH could look at the ideas generated on this thread and see if a feasible solution could be reached.
Regards
Ted
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Posted By Sima Patel
Hi forum users,
Thank you for all your comments on this thread.
I’m afraid that we will not be identifying the individual involved in the recent troll case.
The moderating team would like to assure everyone that IOSH will always take concerns about inappropriate activities of forum users seriously.
As this issue has been brought to a satisfactory conclusion, the moderators have made the joint decision that this thread should be locked.
Kind regards
On behalf of the moderators,
Sima Patel
Web Assistant
IOSH
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