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Posted By Lee Mac
Morning All,
I have just heard on the never ending grape vine that quick stage is being done away with in Construction!!
Is there any truth on this?
I can appreciate tubular would be best but is quick stage actually being made redundant by HSE?
Thanks in Advance,
Lee
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Posted By Salus
Hi Lee, the HSE look after H & S , they have no input in what plant or equipment persons use to carry out their work.
HTH
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Posted By Crim
Oh yes they do!
A HSE inspector recently visited a site run by one of my clients, and issued a prohibition notice on the use of a "Flip Over" saw. He stated that the HSE were currently trying to have these saw benches banned from use on construction sites.
The saw was in good condition but the riving knife and blade guards were not fitted. (This is usually the case with this type of saw). PAT test was up to date and there was nothing wrong with the equipment. i.e. working correctly.
The inspector stated that he wanted the equipment removed from site - not just brought up to requirements but never to be used again.
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Posted By Martin Daly
There are 6 classes of scaffolding kwickstage with a loading capacity of 2 kn per sq meter is class 3.
Class 3 scaffold is suitable for painting and plastering only.
Most people using system scaffolding will move to a scaffold that can be used for all 6 classes.
So the future does not look good for Kwickstage.
Martin Daly
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Posted By Salus
Crib, the HSE issued a PN because the saw was dangerous.
Please direct me to where it states me the HSE have the legal authority to prohibit work plant and equipemy which is in good order, fit for purpose and has all necessary maintenace schedules carried out on it.
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Posted By Brian Dunckley
A LOAD OF 2kn sq metre is a general purpose load, it is not specifically limited to the light loading for painters etc.
The scaffoding industry is slowly moving towards
system scaffold where it is suitable.
BSEN12811 is regarded a system scaffold standard.
Hence the problems currently about the current NASC guidance TG20, which is being rewritten because it is difficult to fit traditional scaffolding into the requirements of 12811.
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Posted By Crim
Salus
Your are right when you say the HSE issued the PN as the saw was dangerous at the time but within 5 minuteS the riving knife and guard were fitted. The PN required removing the saw from site.
I don't know where it states they can do that but we were not prepared to argue!
I have also been trying to get these saws off my Client's sites without success UNTIL NOW!
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
They (HSE) could say the quick stage does no conform to current legal requirements, they have said the tube and fitting is ok as we still work to 5973 not to current.
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Posted By Martin Daly
Please note that the relevant BS for system scaffolding is BS EN 1000 which has been in place since 1990.
Martin Daly
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Posted By Lee Mac
Lads/Lassies,
Good quality stuff, here, good food thought in my attempt to get the Kwik Stage Scaff replaced with the tubular.
The problems I have with our current gear includes the set points at which platforms can only be set at, it is too easy to be tampered with by the odd brickie and the odd operative decides to scale the outside of it instead of using the ladders provided.
Cheers,
Lee
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