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Posted By Simon Walsh Grad IOSH
I have been given the task of evaluating a sizeable pre-tender health and safety plan for the construction of a new building for the organisation I work for. Apart from CDM can anyone give me any useful insight into how I can evaluate the document against any guidance either legislative or best practice.
Thanks for the help.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Get yourself a copy of HSE Guide CIS42 "pre-tender stage Health & Safety Plan" (might be free from the website).
The fact you've used the word "sizeable" isn't encouraging!The pre-tender plan should be short and focussed on areas of significant project specific risk which the competent Principal Contractor could not be expected to know about. This includes risks arising from the site (including any overlap activities), the local environment,and the design.
There should also be brief information regarding the Client's aims and safety goals for the project, arrangements and contact details for Project communication and liaison and arrangements for the Health & Safety File.
Too many Plans are padded out with irrelevant or otherwise obvious information which only serves to obscure significant risk info.
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Posted By Dave McIness
Simon
As the Principal Contractor, you need to be looking at any site specific restrictions that may be placed upon you, the significant hazards associated with the works, any phasing or programme implications, the site rules, any requirements regarding the H&S File.
Basically, you should be looking for anything that flags up significant hazards or restrictions on the way that you may implement your works.
As the PC you do not really need to evaluate the plan against any standards or best practice guidance, it should be seen more as an information pack (to use the HSE's new terminology!) that you can use to develop your own Construction Phase Health and Safety Plan. The best document you can refer to is the CDM ACOP (HSG224).
I hope that this helps.
Dave
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Posted By Brett Day
As a PS I would welcome a call from the PC to discuss my plan, I've dome this on a few occasions and it works well.
Contact the PS on your project, explain your problems and that you have questions that you need answering.
You said sizeable Pre-Tender Plan, if it is a complex job then that could be understandable but for a small job it sounds like a lot of padding.
Without wishing to be insulting, but if this is a big project is there anyone else within your organisation that you could team up with and work on this together? I don't know your background but you seem a little unaware.
Drop me a line I have some info that might be of use.
Regards
Brett
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Posted By Catman
Hi Simon
Are you employed by the client or PC?
TW
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Posted By Simon Walsh Grad IOSH
Thanks for the responses they are very helpful. Just to clarify, I work for the client and when I mentioned sizeable I meant the size of the construction involved not the physical document. Sorry if I was not clear before.
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Posted By Alan Haynes
Out of interest - what input did you/Safety Section have into the Tender requirements?
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Posted By Catman
Hi Simon
If you are working for the client then the two main questions I normally ask when looking at Pre tender plans are,
1. Does the plan demonstrate that the PS is competent and has carefully considered the information?, or does it show the PS has a good printer and lots of standard templates?
2. Considering what you already do on the site (or what the public already does), have the risks to non construction employees been properly considered.
I always end up discussing emergency evac, transport surrounding the site perimeter and careful consideration of deliveries of major kit. Also, as with the question above, are there any risks existing on site that you are aware of that have not been considered because you were never asked?.
Cheers
TW
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Posted By Mike Draper
Simon
For the client, reviewing the pre-tender plan should be fairly straightforward.
Do the project goals reflect your policy?
Do the management arrangements reflect your approach to managing this project?
Do the change control procedures match your internal requirements?
Are points of contact and areas of responsibility well defined?
Has any other information that you provided to the PS been correctly and completely transposed into the document, e.g. your site rules, security arrangements, details of existing hazards or operations on site, etc?
If the answers to any of the above are no, then your PS is not earning their keep.
Mike
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Posted By Simon Walsh Grad IOSH
Alan the amount of input Health and Safety section had was zilch. I have expressed my disappointment at this already.
However thanks for the advice it has been really helpful.
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